Festool, Qwas, Veritas and Roubo.

[markorjack]

I have recently ordered a swag of Festool gear including the MFT-3 and associated clamps.

Sitting in my workshop is all the Benchcrafted hardware required to build a split top Roubo workbench.

My current workbench utilises Veritas round dogs and wonder pups, as well as Gramercy holdfasts.
Another two holdfasts are part of the Benchcrafted Roubo kit so I now have 4.

All of these are 3/4".

Is anybody using similar equipment and switching between the MFT and a workbench?

Will the 3/4" gear work on the MFT, or more importantly with a 20mm hole.

If so I will make the dog holes on my Roubo 20mm so they work with the Festool clamps, Qwas dogs etc but so I can still use my existing equipment.
I realise the thickness of a workbench top will preclude the use of some clamps, but dogs etc should be fine.

After my Roubo top is assembled I will more than likely mill the holes using CNC.
I could even match the spacings to the MFT, as I plan to do with a full sheet out feed table I am constructing for my table saw.

Cheers, Jack

 

[mouppe]

I have a workbench with 3/4" dog holes and a few MFTs. I gave up trying to use the same clamps with both tables. Now I just use the clamping elements with the MFTs and the Veritas bench dogs with the workbench.

I can't stand my Veritas dogs and am considering making my own wooden ones to use instead. The Veritas dogs are really too loose to use in a 20mm MFT hole, although you can get by in a push. Far from ideal though.

 

[Steve R]

I have recently ordered a swag of Festool gear including the MFT-3 and associated clamps.
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Cheers, Jack

markorjack , I have to ask how do you define "swag"..

Here in the US I have heard... "Stuff We All Get" ... mainly giveaway stuff at a trade show.

another US Definition is "Silly Wild Ass Guess"

So how are you using it?

Cheers,
Steve

 

[TomGadwa1]

I have recently ordered a swag of Festool gear including the MFT-3 and associated clamps.
....

Cheers, Jack

markorjack , I have to ask how do you define "swag"..

Here in the US I have heard... "Stuff We All Get" ... mainly giveaway stuff at a trade show.

another US Definition is "Silly Wild  Guess"

So how are you using it?

Cheers,
Steve

I was told that it meant "Stupid Wild Assed Guess". I have worked with many fine Veterans who taught me that.

 

[markorjack]

I have a workbench with 3/4" dog holes and a few MFTs. I gave up trying to use the same clamps with both tables. Now I just use the clamping elements with the MFTs and the Veritas bench dogs with the workbench.

I can't stand my Veritas dogs and am considering making my own wooden ones to use instead. The Veritas dogs are really too loose to use in a 20mm MFT hole, although you can get by in a push. Far from ideal though.

Cheers, that is what I expected.

As for a swag, these days it is a colloquial term for "a lot".

In Australia a swag is used for camping, it is basically a piece of canvas that contains a mattress, and it rolls up.
Unrolled it is large enough for one person to sleep in.

Many years ago there were people called swag men who would roam the countryside without a home.
They would carry all of their possessions rolled up in their swag, such as clothes, blanket etc.

History of the swag.


They are wild and varied these days, from a simple piece of canvas to a double swag that will sleep two people.
Modern swags have poles and insect mesh as well.

 

[mouppe]

In the UK swag just means plunder or booty- as in the haul from a robbery. The word's been in use for hundreds of years and cartoon robbers are often portrayed as carrying their haul away in a bag marked swag. It's definitely not an acronym in this usage. 

[attachthumb=#]

 

[RC]

Arrrr, me Harrrrties! Get out the grog and distribute the swag!

On talk-like-a-pirate day it definitely is synonymous to loot, booty, illegal proceed of robbery, etc.

 

[rdesigns]

[
As for a swag, these days it is a colloquial term for "a lot".

In Australia a swag is used for camping, it is basically a piece of canvas that contains a mattress, and it rolls up.
Unrolled it is large enough for one person to sleep in.

Many years ago there were people called swag men who would roam the countryside without a home.
They would carry all of their possessions rolled up in their swag, such as clothes, blanket etc.[/quote]

And, as I recall, the swag was also called a "Matilda", thus, the world-renowned song "Waltzing Matilda" plays on the swagman's slang for his footloose wanderings as "waltzing Matilda".

The connection is there in the song with the line:  "Up walks a swagman..."

 

[Peter James]

I have a workbench with 3/4" dog holes and a few MFTs. I gave up trying to use the same clamps with both tables. Now I just use the clamping elements with the MFTs and the Veritas bench dogs with the workbench.

I can't stand my Veritas dogs and am considering making my own wooden ones to use instead. The Veritas dogs are really too loose to use in a 20mm MFT hole, although you can get by in a push. Far from ideal though.

Cheers, that is what I expected.

As for a swag, these days it is a colloquial term for "a lot".

In Australia a swag is used for camping, it is basically a piece of canvas that contains a mattress, and it rolls up.
Unrolled it is large enough for one person to sleep in.

Many years ago there were people called swag men who would roam the countryside without a home.
They would carry all of their possessions rolled up in their swag, such as clothes, blanket etc.

History of the swag.


They are wild and varied these days, from a simple piece of canvas to a double swag that will sleep two people.
Modern swags have poles and insect mesh as well.

We just call them Bivy sacks here.

 

[Kev]

The Americans don't own the patent on taking the Queen's English and corrupting into something they call their own!  [big grin]

God help you trying to understand a New Zealander!

 

[Peter James]

I would love to know where we got the term Bivy from...... Apparently Google is stumped on this as well.....

 

[flounder]

Isn't it short for bivouac?

 

[Peter James]

It is. I just don't know if Bivy is just an Americanized version of the word. Thanks!

 

[mouppe]

No, when I was in the cadets in England we called them bivy bags.

 

[markorjack]

Bivy bags are different to swags in Australia.

Swags are heavy, usually made of canvas, and these days are mostly used for vehicle based camping where you don't need to carry the swag.
They usually contain a foam mattress.

Bivy bags are very lightweight, usually made of Gortex and are easily carried in a back pack while hiking.
They don't contain a mattress. It is normal to use a foam or self inflating sleeping pad with a bivy bag.

Bivy is short for bivouac.

 

[Peter James]

Thanks for clarifying! I try to always keep a small kit in the car just in case....great info to have but I'm afraid I may be getting off topic... It would be nice if we could standardize the holes in the benches or if someone made some sort of adapter piece for the clamping elements.