Festool sheathed hose zip marking wood

YASMINSDAD

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D32/22x10mAS-GQ GB Suction hose

Hi. UK person here.

I do a massive amount of sanding, mostly on antique softwood floors. I was looking at the Festool hose above but was concerned the zip might mark the wood when dragged across the floor.

If anyone has bought this and can advise it would be much appreciated.

I have bought cable sheathing (as suggested on here thanks) to be able to make my own sheathed hoses (I currently have four) but I cannot find a plain 32/27, 32/22 7m or 10m hose.

Thanks in advance.

Toby
 
Own the long version, never had an issue with the sleeve yet on any species of wood/flooring. I have , however, gotten black marks from my CT 's power cord on freshly sanded 100yr old Maple flooring. But they were easily removed with a light touch of hand sanding... [sad]
 
leakyroof said:
Own the long version, never had an issue with the sleeve yet on any species of wood/flooring. I have , however, gotten black marks from my CT 's power cord on freshly sanded 100yr old Maple flooring. But they were easily removed with a light touch of hand sanding... [sad]

Something I can't seem to learn not to do is rub the rubber hose end on the wood when trying to direct the suction down into a corner.  [embarassed]
 
Michael Kellough said:
leakyroof said:
Own the long version, never had an issue with the sleeve yet on any species of wood/flooring. I have , however, gotten black marks from my CT 's power cord on freshly sanded 100yr old Maple flooring. But they were easily removed with a light touch of hand sanding... [sad]

Something I can't seem to learn not to do is rub the rubber hose end on the wood when trying to direct the suction down into a corner.  [embarassed]
  Because..... you, like me, didn't stop to go get one of your many 'proper' vacuum nozzles and put it on the end of the hose?..... [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed]
I should just Velcro a nozzle of some type to the Larger 50mm Vac end of all of my AS Hoses so I stop doing just what you described too....  That way it would be sitting on the side of the hose, velcroed when I need it, and out of the way from the tool end/27mm of the hose when I don't
 
Michael Kellough said:
leakyroof said:
Own the long version, never had an issue with the sleeve yet on any species of wood/flooring. I have , however, gotten black marks from my CT 's power cord on freshly sanded 100yr old Maple flooring. But they were easily removed with a light touch of hand sanding... [sad]

Something I can't seem to learn not to do is rub the rubber hose end on the wood when trying to direct the suction down into a corner.  [embarassed]

Thanks leaky. Only it's a lot of money for a hose. Agree. The downside to the excellent black rubber cables are marks on timber, which is why I will finally bite the bullet and get a work center. Festool also do lime green cables, maybe they should change to them. I have German Lagler sanders and their cables are just as flexible, reliable and sturdy as the Festool (I have a cable that is 14 years old) but don't mark (they are yellow) so it is possible for Festool t do the same if they wanted.

The problem occasionally occurs where you miss a mark and accidentally seal it in, which is very annoying. 
 
Actually I Ightfield mention it to Festool when I ask them, plead with them, to turn off the pointless, infuriating anti vibration feature on the ETS EC 150.

I suppose the CT tool holder could be used as a cable holder but really marking leads on woodworking tools is a bit below par.
 
YASMINSDAD said:
Actually I Ightfield mention it to Festool when I ask them, plead with them, to turn off the pointless, infuriating anti vibration feature on the ETS EC 150.

If I may ask, because I have not had the chance yet to use this sander myself, why do you think it is pointless and infuriating?
 
Alex said:
If I may ask, because I have not had the chance yet to use this sander myself, why do you think it is pointless and infuriating?

Ya I'd be interested also...the ETS EC 125 is so nice and smooth compared to the regular 125 sander. My ETS 125 has not been turned on since i purchased the EC 125.
 
Cheese said:
Alex said:
If I may ask, because I have not had the chance yet to use this sander myself, why do you think it is pointless and infuriating?

Ya I'd be interested also...the ETS EC 125 is so nice and smooth compared to the regular 125 sander. My ETS 125 has not been turned on since i purchased the EC 125.

Hi Alex

Pointless (IMO) within the scope of my use, which is mostly on joist fixed floorboards, because  when the machine slows down the vibration still occurs (the joist or board instability is still present) but at a slightly lower frequency. So. Instead of a higher frequency vibration for X seconds the user experiences a lower frequency vibration for X+ seconds. The frequency is less but the duration is more. Assuming that a lower frequency vibration is less harmful  but that the cumulative volume of vibration time is actually more the feature doesn't appear to help much, from a health point of view.

From a tool control point of view the sander is not powerful enough to offer a significant meaningful benefit. On the RO150 Rotex in DA  mode for example on uneven surfaces this automatic control feature would be helpful as occasionally the tool can oscillate wildly and very occasionally jump.

Annoying (IMO)  as I do a very large volume of sanding, up to 6hrs a day and 40hrs a week and for me I want full speed all of the time so I can work faster. Annoying because even wearing my Peltor X5 ear defenders the frequent drone of automatic power reduction and back up to full speed is very fatiguing.

To the occasional user who Sands for a few minutes every week or two this may not be a problem, to me it's very annoying!

I have e several thousand hours using sanders, mostly hand held sanders and agree, the machine is very good and IMHO currently possibly the best single action ROS out there.

It's a shame Festool do not allow you the option to turn this feature off, like the automatic anti dust hose decoupling shut off feature, which is largely redundant now after the introduction of Festools bayonet hose end system.

I feel Festool wanted to show off the microprocessor possibilities of the EC controlled motor, which is fine, but seeing as every other one of their multitude of sanders doesn't have this feature, including the newer ETS EC electronic commutated sanders it's hard to claim it as a work or health benefit.

As I said, I am a fourth generation City and Guilds qualified French Polisher and Antique Restorer and have owned dozens of sanders which I have used for decades and have never found a need or use for an 'anti vibration control'  feature.

I feel it's basically a gimmick, which should be turn offable! The sander is actually very smooth and vibration free anyway by design and IMHO does not need this feature.
 
And.
To digress to the original point I made, which was not explicitly answered, I have bought a  sheathed 3.5m hose and the metal zip track is cleverly shielded by an integrated fabric covering (which is not apparent in the pictures as it is lime green like the metal zip track)

The sheathed hose is fantastic for the ETS and the Rotex, I just wish Festool would make a 36/32 diameter range so that I can use the sheathed system with my edger and screener machines. 22mm is too small for those uses. Festool has to realise people use their extractors in conjunction with non Festool tools
 
YASMINSDAD said:
and btw Alex, is there any chance you would consider shipping a few of these to me?

You got some links in the other thread, if you contact one of those stores they should be able to help you and ship to the UK. If that doesn't work out I don't mind to assist, just PM me.
 
Alex said:
YASMINSDAD said:
and btw Alex, is there any chance you would consider shipping a few of these to me?

You got some links in the other thread, if you contact one of those stores they should be able to help you and ship to the UK. If that doesn't work out I don't mind to assist, just PM me.

Thanks Alex. I ordered from the link in the other thread, fingers crossed they will arrive no problem.
 
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