Festool 'T' and 'C' Drills - What are the differences?

Lewis.

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I'm assuming just the grip type right?  Sorry for the one million questions, I am looking at all the options before buying one.

They don't do a combi drill do they - shame....  :-\
 
You got it -- the handle and how you hold the drill is the main difference.  Some prefer the T style and others the C style.  Other than that, the drills are the same motor, chucks, power, etc...

Scot
 
Theoretically, you can get the T-drills in a tighter spot because your hand is farther forward.

The C-drills allow you to grip them in such a way that while holding them with only one hand, you can still push down the axis of the bit. With a T-drill, it takes 2 hands to push down the axis.

Tom
 
That might sound good in theory, with the T-drills, but only ONE of those two hands would be further forward...

The T drills are for people too set in their ways to adapt to the superiority of the C-handled ones.

;D

 
I like the C handle  ;D

seems to cause less strain on wrist etc, more comfortable for me.
 
+1 for the C-drill [big grin]

as for the differences....not quit sure but....
The new T-drills have a battery indicator and the C-drill don't?

 
Chub said:
+1 for the C-drill [big grin]

as for the differences....not quit sure but....
The new T-drills have a battery indicator and the C-drill don't?

False.  You forfeit the prize - pumkin pickin' with Shane.
 
Ohhh I'm in for the prize.... 1. The way you hold the drill. 2. The location of the torque setting. 3. The actual torque that each drill can produce (T15 is slightly higher???????).  BAAAMM what do I win?

Don't have either yet but went for the C style.  Plus the CXS rocks as far as ergonomics go so why wouldn't the C15
 
Got a T 15 on discount and was originally planning to get the C model but got impatient. got to play with the new drills for a few seconds on the weekend and I don't regret jumping the gun. The C15 seemed a lot bigger than my T and I couldn't hold it properly with my hand injury. The cxs is my little darling and I love the ergonomics on that but the big brother didn't do it for me.
Also I didn't like how they compressed the systainer, removing all the bit storage and the top tray. Other new features are sweet though.
 
GhostFist said:
Got a T 15 on discount and was originally planning to get the C model but got impatient. got to play with the new drills for a few seconds on the weekend and I don't regret jumping the gun.....

To me the best feature of the new drills is the belt clip.  I don't care much about the battery level indicator.  I'm almost looking forward to when my first generation T15 batteries die [blink] so I can replace them with the new ones with the belt clip.

GhostFist said:
.....The C15 seemed a lot bigger than my T and I couldn't hold it properly with my hand injury. The cxs is my little darling and I love the ergonomics on that but the big brother didn't do it for me....

I also agree with you about the CXS having much better ergonomics over the bigger C drills.  I like the full size C drill when you can easily, as Tom says, "push down the axis of the bit".  Unfortunately that really only works ideally when you can get your hand/arm directly behind the drill.  When I'm reaching over my head or into other awkward places the drill becomes much harder to use.  The issue is not being able to get a good grip on the drill since you can't wrap your hand around the handle.  With your thumb and index finger up high on the body of the drill, and your middle and ring fingers on the trigger, you're left trying to hold on to the drill with your pinky around the grip to get some muscle behind the drill.  So you lose the advantage of being in axis with the drill and you can't get a strong grip, that's not ideal.  With the T drill you always have your thumb and lower three fingers wrapped around the grip.  The T15 works much better in those awkward spots for me.  The CXS being so much slimmer doesn't seem to be much of a problem in this regard.

GhostFist said:
...Also I didn't like how they compressed the systainer, removing all the bit storage and the top tray. Other new features are sweet though.
 

This is also a sore point for me.  I'm pretty sure anyone with the older C12 in the Sys 1 would agree with me that getting to cord from the charger in the Sys can be a hassle.  As professionals we have to deal with tools everyday.  A poorly laid out tool box or one that is too small wastes time.  I don't want to have to carry another tool box for the essential accessories or waste time trying to jam all the parts or cord in the box.  At the end of a long day I just want to go home, not fight putting my tools back in the box.  This is a huge step backwards for Festool.  Sure they can knock a few bucks off the price tag with the smaller Systainer but those few bucks saved would end up costing me a lot more in hassle and wasted time.                      
 
Brice, I agree about the size of the systainer and the cxs.  When I ordered the cxs from Tom Bellemare, I went ahead and bought a Sys 2 just so I could switch over the cxs gear and have room for the extras I want to have in there.  The sys 1 got used somewhere else, but still I think Festool should consider this  and upsize the systainers. 
 
I own 2 c-12's as well as a cxs and really loved the way they felt in my hands. I have been using a t-handle drill lately and boy I'm enjoying it.  The t-handle drill is very easy to control and I haven't had any issues with sinking any screws.  I don't think you would be upset with either style drill and if I could only own one drill I would be torn on which style to buy.

Dave
 
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