Gary Katz Finish Carpentry Clinic June 16, 2011

[Ken Nagrod]

Anybody going to the carpentry clinic tomorrow in Succasunna, NJ?  If you are, maybe I'll see you there.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Well, didn't meet anyone from the FOG there, but I did manage to get a couple of new potential members for us, one of whom has been a looonnngg time Festool owner.

As in the past, Gary put on a really great clinic and Rick Arnold was at this one too.  A lot of good information on dealing with today's wood trim and moisture plus mixing wood trim and PVC trim to get better results and longer life for the finished product.

Got to see him coping some crown and chair rail with the Trion and Collins Coping Foot mounted to it.

Gary did a section on fitting a new door into an old jamb.  He also has that in his DVD series.  There was the usual section on installing interior crown and the methods for modifying spring angle to fit odd situations, make cuts to run crown up raked walls/ceilings and a section on proper window installation with Rick Arnold and Gary Katz.

Got to meet Toby Haskins from Festool  [thumbs up] and got to see Saulius again!  Either he's following me or subconsciously I'm following him around.  [big grin]

Got to see my FS-BAG-PA guide rail accessory bag that Toby had.  Looks like they went with the same design as the European model as I didn't notice anything different about his compared to the one I got.

Oh! I almost forgot to mention this, but after several years of going to Gary's shows, I finally won something.  I got an Anderson Windows embroidered Bucket Boss Pro Super GateMouth tool bag.  That was a handful to say.

These shows are great.  You learn a lot at them, even knowing a lot to begin with.  Funny how there were so many attendees that didn't seem to know about Festool, yet swarmed the booth loving the demos of the Kapex, the CXS and other stuff.  They were even asking me questions and handing me their Festool contest registration slips like I worked for Festool.  [big grin]

 

[tiralie]

They were even asking me questions and handing me their Festool contest registration slips like I worked for Festool.  [big grin]

Hu, I thought you did?  [big grin]

I gotta make it down to one of Gary's shows.
Tim

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Sorry, Tim.  I don't know if Toby and Saulius saw it since they were flooded with people, but it was pretty funny.  Even back in my seat for the clinic I had people coming over asking me questions.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Pictures of the bag, modified Trion and modified MFT with Kreg clamping plate:

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I put up a couple more pics.  The rest I shot was a lot of video.  Nothing great since I didn't get there early enough for a front row seat.

Also forgot to mention how in the beginning of the show, the lumberyard manager knocked the Trion off the MFT onto the floor and Gary gave him a comment, "Don't worry about it.  Festool is here.  They'll just give me a new one." - sarcastically, but funny.

 

[peter halle]

Ken,

I can relate to the difficulties of filming Gary.  I asked and got permission to shoot snippets.  They all turned out badly.  Got to shoot the whole program and then edit.  Not readily feasible.

Glad you had a good time!

Peter

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Thanks Peter.  I was thinking about whether Gary wouldn't like me filming the whole thing or most of it, but considering I'm shooting the backs of peoples heads in most of the frames and I'm juggling shooting video on my iphone and my little camera depending on the iphone's battery state, it was far from professional or presentable.  It was mainly for my reference instead of trying to keep up with notes and catch things I might have missed.

 

[peter halle]

Just to make sure that nobody gets the wrong impression here, Gary gave me permission to video snippets and not the whole program.  The quality of my videos could have presented a poor representation of the high quality of his presentations.  Gary produces excellent videos.  Mine that day were not.

You should always request permission prior to making a video.

None of this is directed at Ken.  This is just a general statement for our many readers.

Peter

 

[Alan m]

whats the modification on the trion for . my guess is for coping  crown

 

[peter halle]

The Collins coping foot is used for coping moulding - primarily crown.

 

[awdriven]

I think there are at least a few youtube videos about coping crown this way. I have this accessory on by Bosch barrel grip jigsaw and it works a treat. I don't think it would be very easy to have the saw hooked up to dust collection while doing it though.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Just to make sure that nobody gets the wrong impression here, Gary gave me permission to video snippets and not the whole program.  The quality of my videos could have presented a poor representation of the high quality of his presentations.  Gary produces excellent videos.  Mine that day were not.

You should always request permission prior to making a video.

None of this is directed at Ken.  This is just a general statement for our many readers.

Peter

Good point, Peter!  Just so everyone knows, I am not posting the videos anywhere.  They are just for my use.  I watched a sample of each last night and they turned out better than I thought, especially the audio.

I think there are at least a few youtube videos about coping crown this way. I have this accessory on by Bosch barrel grip jigsaw and it works a treat. I don't think it would be very easy to have the saw hooked up to dust collection while doing it though.

Gary had no problem using the Trion with dc hose while coping crown and chair rail, but keep this in mind.  He showed a better way to cope with the jigsaw.  He mounts the molding in a homemade adjustable clamping miter box so he's looking down at the profile's length to cope like when mounting it in position on a miter saw.  Much easier using the jigsaw that way and having greater control over it removing material.  He demonstrated when to use a pulling motion of the jigsaw and when to use a pushing motion to increase the ability to control the cutting action.

You learn a lot of these great tips/tricks at his shows and on his videos.

 

[awdriven]

That's exactly how I do it, Ken - I built a right-angle trough out of melamine that I clamp down to the table, and use another clamp to hold the crown 'in position' in the trough. I'm not as good as Gary with the jigsaw, so I follow that up with a little rasp, sandpaper or dremel action to perfect the cope.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

That's exactly how I do it, Ken - I built a right-angle trough out of melamine that I clamp down to the table, and use another clamp to hold the crown 'in position' in the trough. I'm not as good as Gary with the jigsaw, so I follow that up with a little rasp, sandpaper or dremel action to perfect the cope.

Nothing wrong with doing that.  I would imagine it's easier for someone who copes as much molding as Gary.  If I get a chance I'll show you how he was doing it.  He also prefers the Festool  S75/4FS  jigsaw blade for coping.  He said it's superior to the previous Bosch blade he used for years and recommended by David Collins.  It's a thicker blade so it'll hold up better too.

 

[Sean7a]

Ken, I'm sorry you had to meet, chat, spend time with Toby.  My deepest condolences.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Thanks, Sean.  I'm slowly getting over it.  [big grin]  Any assistance in the way of tools or money that's just taking up valuable floor space in your place, is greatly appreciated and will go a long ways to improving my condition!

 

[Sean7a]

Thanks, Sean.  I'm slowly getting over it.  [big grin]   Any assistance in the way of tools or money that's just taking up valuable floor space in your place, is greatly appreciated and will go a long ways to improving my condition!

Of course, anything I can do.  I have all these strange tools here with awkward names...no vowels, just consonants.  MFT's and CT's and TS's, please take'em off my hands.  We're open weekends, so come at your convenience, I know you're going through a lot right now.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Thanks!  I'm sending Dave with his credit card tomorrow.  Be sure he gets one three of everything.  [thanks]

 

[vwdave]

I'm leaving my credit card home.  But I will be bringing my bosses  ;D.  I can't wait to see the store..