is it all short on stock or only me?

[Gerald Yang]

buying my very first TSC 55 and sander, not a single one in stock in my aera, Im from Canada.
is this means they are refreshing the products? maybe just changing the package to new sys3? or maybe just add cordless sander to the line?

 

[DeformedTree]

buying my very first TSC 55 and sander, not a single one in stock in my aera, Im from Canada.
is this means they are refreshing the products? maybe just changing the package to new sys3? or maybe just add cordless sander to the line?

So, there is a global shortage of all Festool Stuff. Almost every festool dealer is stripped to the shelves of everything.

Sys 3 change over has caused some items to be gone for bits of time. You also have people hunting down the old versions to avoid Sys 3.

Festool did just announce a new version of the TSC55, I doubt it's shipping in Europe yet, and it tends to take 1/2-1 year for things to show up in the new world.  You will have to decide if it is worth the wait for the new version to you.

So yeah, finding one could be a challenge right now.  You might want to keep an eye on the Festool Recon site, I think it's available to Canadians too.

 

[woodferret]

Price jump in Jan stripped most things in Dec.  I got the last RTS and Domino in my area then.  My other supplier that's more online seems to be ordering pallets on demand, which has it's requisite slow-down.  I've been given roughly 6-8 week wait times the last few things I tried ordering.  Off beat things like hand sanding blocks and sheets seem to have even more delay - probably because of less warehousing PoP.

 

[PreferrablyWood]

Here in Copenhagen we have a well assorted physical store with good selection of Festool items. So I pretty well covered there. On the other hand I ordered sandpaper and centrotec bits from a company in Germany and haven't heard anything for 10 days on when they will be shipping.

I've dealt with them before and it's a solid company but previously I had a wait of 4 months for something that deeply disturbing, I think I found another supplier for a time, better prices too. But they have since disappeared, so I returned to my other company as they list absolutely every available Festool and for the most part deliver in a timely fashion.

 

[RustE]

buying my very first TSC 55 and sander, not a single one in stock in my aera, Im from Canada.
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Are you looking online or talking with local dealers?  Given the general supply-chain issues because of COVID-19, I would probably talk with local dealers about getting on a call list or possibly pre-ordering.

Also, if you know exactly which tools you want to buy, then consider getting the accessories (e.g. sandpaper) ahead of the tool itself.  Bascially, buy what you can when you see it.

 

[Gerald Yang]

buying my very first TSC 55 and sander, not a single one in stock in my aera, Im from Canada.
...

Are you looking online or talking with local dealers?  Given the general supply-chain issues because of COVID-19, I would probably talk with local dealers about getting on a call list or possibly pre-ordering.

Also, if you know exactly which tools you want to buy, then consider getting the accessories (e.g. sandpaper) ahead of the tool itself.  Bascially, buy what you can when you see it.

yeah, I checked both the main online stores (leevally and atlas tool)and local dealers, no luck....I did find the combo kit for TSC though, but its might be really wired to use 5.2 ah battery on OSC which i also looking for getting. I guess I will just get T18 E and OSC for now and wait for tsc back in stock

 

[Cheese]

FWIW...this is directly from the Festool USA web site:

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So unless this is due to repackaging TS 75's into SYS³ Systainers, this is new to me. I have never seen where the Temporarily Unavailable label has been added to a Festool website.

 

[mino]

TS75 is no longer on the German site at all (but it is on the 2021 catalog).

I would guess Festool decided to optimize/streamline manufacturing given the shortages and the TS75 ended up with the short end of the stick.

Either way, it is still available in a few shops in Europe, but nothing rosy. Most list it as available in a week, which leads me to believe there is little stock in the channel and those are default listings.

Lets hope this is temporary, but would not hold high hopes for it to re-appear before the stock situation with the new TS/TSC gets better.

Looking at it again, it seems the HK55 likely faced the same faith of being asked to "give way" to the more popular tools on the manufacturing lines. Festool is a small company so they share manufacturing line for multiple tools. One obvious way to increase total production with the same tools/people is to temporarily reduce the frequency of switching between producing different tools on the lines hence reducing the idle time.

One last.
Festool has a big factory in Czech Republic (the Narex plant ta Ceska Lipa) where they make a lot of their tools. And there was just introduced a pretty tight lockdown this Monday over here.

The industry is still opened with some restrictions (respirators and mandatory tests) but the schools are completely closed so a lot o parents have to stay home to care for the kids.
This even if no quarantines hit the employees of TTS would still have the ability to affect production rates in a non-trivial way.

Especially given bad luck you can easily loose the bulk of a certain profession/role and that can put a whole line to a crawl as re-training people is not a one-day task if you have the quality standards Festool has.

Similarly, Germany is under a (less strict) lockdown for a long period by now.

 

[DeformedTree]

They can assemble tools in their garage and kitchens.

 

[mino]

They can assemble tools in their garage and kitchens.

[scared]

You did remind me the "Backyard furnace" concept of the Great Leap.

The idea was good in theory.
[cool]

 

[snd]

Asked the same thing of my local Festool dealer (central Michigan, USA).  He has ample supply of abrasives, one 1010 router and some odds and ends.  His feel is the supply chain is broken, that is, lack of containers at ports, lack of truck drivers, production limitations etc.  Similar story from other US and non-US suppliers.  My take-away was there wasn't one major thing effecting the supply shortages at least in this region.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

That's disappointing because a TS75 is next on my list

 

[Cheese]

I’m going to the local Woodcraft store tomorrow, let’s see what bits and pieces they have to offer. 

 

[Ron B]

I’m going to the local Woodcraft store tomorrow, let’s see what bits and pieces they have to offer.

Looking forward to your reporting back to us.  The nearest dealer for me is about 90 minutes away, so it is not easy for me to just drop by and see what is in. 

 

[pettyconstruction]

My local Rockler had some stuff,including the elusive cutting table.
Only one sander though.
Charlie

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[Cheese]

Looking forward to your reporting back to us.  The nearest dealer for me is about 90 minutes away, so it is not easy for me to just drop by and see what is in.

Well, pretty slim pickings...a good selection of consumables but a pretty slim choice of main-stream equipment. Here's a shot of available tools and most of them have a label attached which stipulates that they are a DEMO ITEM ONLY. I'd take that means NOT FOR SALE TODAY.

Just not a lot to see...and no-one is happy about that. I ordered some DTS pads and it took 30+ days to receive them. Normally it'd be a 1 week window. Ordered some more parts today, we'll see how long it takes.

This is a world-wide phenomenon as every industry is effected. Guns...ammunition...cameras...camera lenses...mechanical watches...the list goes on.

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[DeformedTree]

Maybe they just don't want to overcrowd things.

 

[JeremyH.]

Shipping has been shitty lately for a lot of stuff but somehow not Amazon... seems a little fishy to me.

Truckers are not in short supply, not in the US. They have been willing to work 100% of the time since the start. 

Luckily my local Festool dealer had some items I wanted that were selling out. I’m tempted to go back for more but I am no where near the “make your tools pay for themselves” this spring (yet).

 

[DeformedTree]

Well, amazon is its own shipping, so that won't be an issue.

I think you are just seeing COVID catch up after a year.  Some production drops here and there, a delay or too, so on an do forth, after a year, small things add up. In time, you just run out of parts, your supplier can't make parts, someone can't ship something. One companies backup pushes stuff for someone else off. 

 

[JeremyH.]

Well, amazon is its own shipping, so that won't be an issue.

I think you are just seeing COVID catch up after a year.  Some production drops here and there, a delay or too, so on an do forth, after a year, small things add up. In time, you just run out of parts, your supplier can't make parts, someone can't ship something. One companies backup pushes stuff for someone else off.

All my packages from them are UPS or USPS. I'm comparing apples to apples.