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Laying this project out getting ready for my first use of the df500 I'm wondering if I should have gotten the XL??
Is the Domino DF 500 too small
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This is a bed frame for a kids twin bed. The post on the right is 8/4 3-1/2" wide, the rail is 6/4 but 4" wide. those are the 10x50 dominos.
this said, i'm using brackets for the rails to connect to the Post which will carry all of the weight support. the connection show is really use to hold the head board rails and stiles together.
Looking at it, it just seems like building any larger furniture, i'd really want to be able to do deeper cut dominos, but this is all new to me, so what do i know.
this said, i'm using brackets for the rails to connect to the Post which will carry all of the weight support. the connection show is really use to hold the head board rails and stiles together.
Looking at it, it just seems like building any larger furniture, i'd really want to be able to do deeper cut dominos, but this is all new to me, so what do i know.
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Thanks for replies. I'm gonna see if I can do two rows, 4 total per joint. Mainly I'm wondering how many people have the 500 and end up buying the XL because it just isn't enough .
As pointed out above, many furniture pieces were made before the launch of the XL, which, of course, has its place, e.g. in making full-size doors.
If you really need to use longer dominoes with a DF500, there is a trick -- which I used in a recent table project -- cut the deepest mortises with the DF500 and then make them deeper with a drill bit of the same diameter of the Domino cutter. Use the longer Dominoes intended for the XL or cut your own. For occasional one-off jobs, this is ok. If you foresee building many large pieces, of course, the XL is the way to go. I own the DF500 and have no plans to get the XL.
Chuck
If you really need to use longer dominoes with a DF500, there is a trick -- which I used in a recent table project -- cut the deepest mortises with the DF500 and then make them deeper with a drill bit of the same diameter of the Domino cutter. Use the longer Dominoes intended for the XL or cut your own. For occasional one-off jobs, this is ok. If you foresee building many large pieces, of course, the XL is the way to go. I own the DF500 and have no plans to get the XL.
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sofa_king_rad said:
If you're not hosting a couple during the Pan Farr, then it is possible that you may be over engineering it.
Or you could make a small example of a test joint and destructively test it to gain some understanding of the strength of the joint.
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Very true. This is my first project with the domino AND my first furniture project. I did a test today using four and it will work great.
I'm struggling with line up the dominos since the two pieces of stock are different thickness. I'm sure I'll come up with something . Are there any tips and tricks blogs or videos for using the domino tool?
I'm struggling with line up the dominos since the two pieces of stock are different thickness. I'm sure I'll come up with something . Are there any tips and tricks blogs or videos for using the domino tool?
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sofa_king_rad said:
Rick Christopherson has made supplemental manuals for the domino that are very helpful.
http://www.dominoguide.com/manual.html
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Holmz said:
How do I "see if that is strong enough" without building the system and seeing if it breaks apart?
Can anyone give examples of furniture built for support adults where the joints used just 2 10x50mm dominos?
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This might give you an idea:https://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/
You don't necessarily need to build it to see if it will fail. If you know the types of loads, materials, and joints, then you can do a fair job of computing how much safety margin the joints have (or don't have).
You don't necessarily need to build it to see if it will fail. If you know the types of loads, materials, and joints, then you can do a fair job of computing how much safety margin the joints have (or don't have).
Mill some stock identical to that being used for the bed, cut the dominos, glue it up and try break it apart. It won't give you a 100%, no doubt, answer but, if you can easily break it apart, then you know. I doubt the dominos themselves would be the weak point. More likely it's the fact that the 10 X 50 dominos need more gluing surface; meaning they should extend longer into the joint. If you can do 2 rows for each joint, I would think that it should be strong enough, although I would say I think it's borderline for a bed (just me and I tend to over build). Make sure you coat the entire surface of the Dominos with glue (usually not a problem either).
I wouldn't try to do 2 rows unless the stock was at least 2" thick. I'm just basing that on size of domino versus thickness, though, not because I've done it.
I wouldn't try to do 2 rows unless the stock was at least 2" thick. I'm just basing that on size of domino versus thickness, though, not because I've done it.
