Kapex Auxiliary fence WITH UG cart and wings?

[LDBecker]

Overly enthusiastic new Kapex and UG cart with wings owner here... Had some NASTY kickback episodes (actually broke the spring-loaded dust guard inside the blade housing) and so I made an auxiliary fence, per Rick Christopherson's excellent  supplemental manual... and it really doesn't work with the UG wings attached. The fence bunps into the body of the wing when you try to move it back from the blade, even if you make the material guide on the wing even with the auxiliary fence you just made.
Any one come up with ways to make this work? (I did search)... Thanks!

 

[ear3]

Trying to visualize. When I put on the wings, I don't bother aligning the fence on the wing with the one on the kapex itself, but usually set it back an eight to a quarter inch. Critical dimension for 90 degree cuts us workpiece being flush against kapex fence, so I found it wasn't worth all the fiddling to get the UG wing fence aligned. Would the auxiliary fence clear the wing if you set it back in this way?

 

[erock]

My setup......

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I bring the wings up to the auxiliary fence.

Eric

 

[erock]

I'm using 12mm ply.

Fence opens no problem on both sides.

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And I can still use the stops with the 12mm auxiliary fence.

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Eric

 

[LDBecker]

I think both of your set-ups illustrate the problem I am having. I am trying to, for example, cut several long pieces of wood, 4-5' in length. When cutting long pieces, they can't rest against the back of the wings because the auxiliary fence, in my case, is 3/8" wide. If I bring the wings' backstop flush with the backstop of the wings, I can no longer move the fences (with the aux wood pieces) to the left or right - in case I had to cut at a bevel. The Kapex's fences no longer line up in a way that lets them slide past the edge of the Kapex.
Do you not need to slide the fences farther away from the blade from time to time?

 

[vogel61]

LDBecker,
if your auxiliary fence resembles that of Eric, then the construction of the fence is not supposed to be that way.

My aux fence was build as one piece while the original fence was in closed position. Then I set a relief cut.

Thus the fence can be opened while aligned with the extension.

btw, my extension is modded a little bit as I mounted Incra stops to make length adjustments repeatable.

Richard

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[jmbfestool]

I think both of your set-ups illustrate the problem I am having. I am trying to, for example, cut several long pieces of wood, 4-5' in length. When cutting long pieces, they can't rest against the back of the wings because the auxiliary fence, in my case, is 3/8" wide. If I bring the wings' backstop flush with the backstop of the wings, I can no longer move the fences (with the aux wood pieces) to the left or right - in case I had to cut at a bevel. The Kapex's fences no longer line up in a way that lets them slide past the edge of the Kapex.
Do you not need to slide the fences farther away from the blade from time to time?

Thats what both Edward and Erock are getting at regarding the wings.

I do the exact same thing my self and I always leave the wings set back. 

There is no need whats so ever  to have the wings flush with the fence apart from being a pain in the arse and actually be dangerous. 

If your timber in bent the wings get in the way.  The only place its important for the timber to seat correctly is on the kapex fence and not the ug wings.  If you do set the ug wings flush and have bent timber you then have to make sure the curve is away from you. If not the timber can be slightly away from your fence and as you cut it will bend towards fence causing your blade to bind and then BANG!

 

[ear3]

I knew there was a technical reason why I set the wings back, other than me just wanting to avoid fiddling.  Bingo.

If your timber in bent the wings get in the way.  The only place its important for the timber to seat correctly is on the kapex fence and not the ug wings.  If you do set the ug wings flush and have bent timber you then have to make sure the curve is away from you. If not the timber can be slightly away from your fence and as you cut it will bend towards fence causing your blade to bind and then BANG!

 

[erock]

I think both of your set-ups illustrate the problem I am having. I am trying to, for example, cut several long pieces of wood, 4-5' in length. When cutting long pieces, they can't rest against the back of the wings because the auxiliary fence, in my case, is 3/8" wide. If I bring the wings' backstop flush with the backstop of the wings, I can no longer move the fences (with the aux wood pieces) to the left or right - in case I had to cut at a bevel. The Kapex's fences no longer line up in a way that lets them slide past the edge of the Kapex.
Do you not need to slide the fences farther away from the blade from time to time?

Thats what both Edward and Erock are getting at regarding the wings.

I do the exact same thing my self and I always leave the wings set back. 

There is no need whats so ever  to have the wings flush with the fence apart from being a pain in the arse and actually be dangerous. 

If your timber in bent the wings get in the way.  The only place its important for the timber to seat correctly is on the kapex fence and not the ug wings.  If you do set the ug wings flush and have bent timber you then have to make sure the curve is away from you. If not the timber can be slightly away from your fence and as you cut it will bend towards fence causing your blade to bind and then BANG!

[thumbs up]   

The way I have the fence and wings setup allows me to open or remove the fence for miter or bevel cuts.   

Eric