Makita Plunge Saw
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It's already here. I saw it demonstrated at Hartville Tool's show last November. Other than its anti-tip feature which prevents the saw from tipping off the track when making a bevel cut, I didn't see much reason to go with Makita.
Dave R.
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Yeah, I'm not sure I would buy it. Festool invented the technology. So, they've likely perfected it more. I was actually more interested in buying some of the clamps they are selling with the saw. I understand they fit the Festool track too.
I can't find any US retailers offering the product. Maybe I'm missing something.
I can't find any US retailers offering the product. Maybe I'm missing something.
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I think it interesting that that site doesn't link the reader to accessories to go with the track saw, not even the track! Duh?
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Didn't work for me. Gave me the same info on the saw and nothing re accessories when I clicked on that tab, I got referred to a listing of dealers.
Dave R.
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Ok, lets try again.
Guide Rails
Systainer / Case
Wrench
Clamps
If you click on the "Details" tab, it will give you the model numbers.
Guide Rails
Systainer / Case
Wrench
Clamps
If you click on the "Details" tab, it will give you the model numbers.
Between Festool, Dewalt and Makita you can know cherry pick the best product or price and not rely on only one manufacturer. And I'm sure more will enter the market as well. Plus there wil be more options in the used market as well. Overall competiton will be good.
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Can you do that with a Festool TS 55 or TS 75 if you buy a DeWalt guide rail? I think the distance between the "hat rib" on the rail and the splinter guard is the same on the competing brands of guide rails, but am not sure.
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The Dewalt raised rib is in the center of the rail and that is why it is easy to use on either side.
I sort of wondered why someone has not made it a dovetail shaped raised rib as that would lock the tools to the track, but one locking side could be made to move aside so that the tools could be picked off or put on the track anyplace.
Best,
Todd
I sort of wondered why someone has not made it a dovetail shaped raised rib as that would lock the tools to the track, but one locking side could be made to move aside so that the tools could be picked off or put on the track anyplace.
Best,
Todd
bill-e said:So much for cheaper accessories :
Makita clamps $44.99
Festool clamps $33.00
The saw is cheaper but only 2 rails to choose from.
Makita Saw $349
and rail 89.99
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438 .99
Festool TS55 $475
and rail
"New" price after February 1st for TS-55 will be $500 flat. Makita and DeWalt can drop price, Festool doesn't. Price for 54" Makita's rail is $79, and 117" Makita's rail is $199. (Festool's prices after 1/2/2009 are $94 for 55", and $260 for 106") .
It will be interesting to see how the pricing game plays out. It looks like DeWalt is taking the approach that Festool has estabilished a customer's willingness to pay at ~$500. Take Dewalts advertising to reach new customers and they can get those customers that Festool might not have reached.
Makita looks like they are pricing lower, but close enough not to seem inferior. But they seemed to have lauched with little advertising. I see the Dewalt banner ads all over the place.
I wouldn't expect to see the retail price below $400 for the saw and track until the Ridgids or Ryobi's come to market. We will probably see retail prices hover above $400 for a couple of years. But the used market will be where the value is. I think that will drive the used price of the Festools down.
Makita looks like they are pricing lower, but close enough not to seem inferior. But they seemed to have lauched with little advertising. I see the Dewalt banner ads all over the place.
I wouldn't expect to see the retail price below $400 for the saw and track until the Ridgids or Ryobi's come to market. We will probably see retail prices hover above $400 for a couple of years. But the used market will be where the value is. I think that will drive the used price of the Festools down.
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Stoolman said:
Yes, I wondered if Festool was making these for Mikita too....looks identical to me.
Todd
Festool doesn't actually make the Systainers and Sortainers. A sister company called Tanos makes them. Tanos and Festool as both subsidiaries of Tool Technic.
You can check out their website here - Tanos
They sell Systainers to many companies. I actually first ran across them with the Linhof camera systems.
You can check out their website here - Tanos
They sell Systainers to many companies. I actually first ran across them with the Linhof camera systems.
