Makita sander

[jmbfestool]

Cool.....  Was just looking on Axminister web site and came across this sander not seen a cordless orbital sander before!

http://www.axminster.co.uk/makita-bbo180rfe-cordless-random-orbit-sander-18v-prod886623/?sessionid=9fef6196f2a82eb4cbb2aa119f73b5e00756a612

 

[AlexThePalex]

You don't see so many cordless sanders because they run out of juice very quickly. They say "long running time" with this one, but they don't say how long.  [scratch chin]

 

[duburban]

i saw one of those on ebay sold out of canada. checked out the specs.... not bad! imagine how handy it would be for a house painter...

"up to 40 minutes of run time on a single charge" i'd assume thats on low speed setting @ 7000 rpm

 

[Scott B.]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

 

[duburban]

makita had a major constraint with its 18v lxt battery. i'd prefer the sander that fits our existing batteries than a new system, but i agree otherwise.

 

[Alan m]

i like the idea of a cordless sander. i often have to do those small little sanding operations that only take a minute or 2 . it usually takes longer to set up than to sand
id love a festool version of maybe the dts

 

[BBuild]

I got to see this sander yesterday.  It felt similar in size and weight to an ets125 but it didn't have a battery in it. Im sure it'd be pretty top heavy with 3.0ah battery in it. TOTT just did a review.

http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/post.asp?blogid=franeblog&postid=738361&sectionID=2128

 

[Deansocial]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

Think your missing the concept a little here. Things like this a designed for those 5 min job were geting setp with mains stuff takes longer than the job. Perfect tool if yo have say done a small repair ad it needs a waft over with a sander

 

[Scott B.]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

Think your missing the concept a little here. Things like this a designed for those 5 min job were geting setp with mains stuff takes longer than the job. Perfect tool if yo have say done a small repair ad it needs a waft over with a sander

Its going to mean different things to different people depending on the nature of your work. For me, as a paint contractor, we are grabbing cordless tools more and more all the time for increasingly larger tasks because of the convenience factor. There is really no such thing as a 5 minute sanding (or any) task in my world.

 

[duburban]

would using a battery like that destroy them sooner?

 

[Alan m]

i often have to touch up a bit of sanding . it usually is only a 1 minute job. but is a 15 min job by the time you get everything pluged in

 

[Deansocial]

I often remove spething from a wall and have a small amount of patching to sand, 2 min job with a cordless sander ot would be

 

[jmbfestool]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

lol take it you wont buy one of these then.

http://www.graco.com/us/en/products/contractor/proshot-ii-cordless.html

edited:   Just watched the video are you in the video?!?!?

edited: Just watched the all videos  doesnt look da bad that cordless spray gun.  When I first saw it I thought man da is going to be crap.

 

[nehardwoodfloors]

I make lots of samples for clients. It would be perfect for that.
I actually abrade our floors in between coats. We use a buffer and an RO150 for the edges.
Im thinking this might be good for small jobs. Just not to sure yet. Might be great,might be a waste.

 

[Scott B.]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

lol take it you wont buy one of these then.

http://www.graco.com/us/en/products/contractor/proshot-ii-cordless.html

edited:   Just watched the video are you in the video?!?!?

Haha.  [big grin]

My comments in regards to ergonomics for a sander do not apply to a cordless paint sprayer. Total apples and oranges. A sander is not nearly as complex as a paint sprayer in terms of what is happening in the palm of your hand when you pull the trigger. To me, and I am no engineer, a cordless sander ought to be able to perform at the level of a cordless drill or impact, in terms of power to weight ratio. Thats just my expectation, based on nothing but my own dreams.

The ProShot, I have been using since before they came out. I have been through every growing pain of that tool, and have identified most of them before they hit the market (some change pre-release, some dont and come back with teeth). But, that tool is an actual airless sprayer in the palm of your hand, capable of dispersing paint at 2000 psi on an 18v battery with a quart cup attached, with pressure control and the same style and quality of reversible tip that is on our more expensive skid and cart airless sprayers. When they are good, and the user has to know how to keep them good, they are amazing. When they are bad, and they do have days, you want to smash it against the nearest curb. But yes, that is a tool I have done just about every level of finish with, including cabinet grade. Its not perfect yet, but it gets better every generation.

And yes, I think I am in the vid (havent seen that one yet I dont think).

 

[duburban]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

lol take it you wont buy one of these then.

http://www.graco.com/us/en/products/contractor/proshot-ii-cordless.html

edited:   Just watched the video are you in the video?!?!?

edited: Just watched the all videos  doesnt look da bad that cordless spray gun.   When I first saw it I thought man da is going to be crap.

i ended up with one of these 2nd hand. they are actually really powerful little tools. the price point just went down which is good as there's no way i'd think about one at $700

 

[jmbfestool]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

lol take it you wont buy one of these then.

http://www.graco.com/us/en/products/contractor/proshot-ii-cordless.html

edited:   Just watched the video are you in the video?!?!?

Haha.  [big grin]

My comments in regards to ergonomics for a sander do not apply to a cordless paint sprayer. Total apples and oranges. A sander is not nearly as complex as a paint sprayer in terms of what is happening in the palm of your hand when you pull the trigger. To me, and I am no engineer, a cordless sander ought to be able to perform at the level of a cordless drill or impact, in terms of power to weight ratio. Thats just my expectation, based on nothing but my own dreams.

The ProShot, I have been using since before they came out. I have been through every growing pain of that tool, and have identified most of them before they hit the market (some change pre-release, some dont and come back with teeth). But, that tool is an actual airless sprayer in the palm of your hand, capable of dispersing paint at 2000 psi on an 18v battery with a quart cup attached, with pressure control and the same style and quality of reversible tip that is on our more expensive skid and cart airless sprayers. When they are good, and the user has to know how to keep them good, they are amazing. When they are bad, and they do have days, you want to smash it against the nearest curb. But yes, that is a tool I have done just about every level of finish with, including cabinet grade. Its not perfect yet, but it gets better every generation.

And yes, I think I am in the vid (havent seen that one yet I dont think).

I thought it was you in the video wasnt sure.    It was the backwards cap and yellow/cream jumper which made me think it was you.

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

lol take it you wont buy one of these then.

http://www.graco.com/us/en/products/contractor/proshot-ii-cordless.html

edited:   Just watched the video are you in the video?!?!?

edited: Just watched the all videos  doesnt look da bad that cordless spray gun.   When I first saw it I thought man da is going to be crap.

i ended up with one of these 2nd hand. they are actually really powerful little tools. the price point just went down which is good as there's no way i'd think about one at $700

Yeah just been watching the videos it has some spray 12''  which pretty big for a cordless and watching the videos it  sprays pretty thick stuff.     

If it was available in UK at a good price I would consider it.

JMB

 

[Scott B.]

Concept is good, but the picture in that link looks less than ideal ergonomically. Poor battery housing design and the battery is too big. I would want to see the same little battery that powers the CXS drill. 40 minutes of sanding time for a painter is not much. We often go 6 hours a day. I would need 6 batteries and a 20 min recharge time. It looks kind of bulky which goes against the convenience factor of cordless tools. And then, there is something unattractive about a sander with a bag on it.

That said, the concept of a cordless sander is great. For that occasional time when you have to climb up a staging tower and hit that one spot in the gable peak. Clip to belt and go. So, Festool, I would like an ets90 with the cxs battery slipped into it and a belt clip.

lol take it you wont buy one of these then.

http://www.graco.com/us/en/products/contractor/proshot-ii-cordless.html

edited:   Just watched the video are you in the video?!?!?

edited: Just watched the all videos  doesnt look da bad that cordless spray gun.   When I first saw it I thought man da is going to be crap.

i ended up with one of these 2nd hand. they are actually really powerful little tools. the price point just went down which is good as there's no way i'd think about one at $700

Yeah just been watching the videos it has some spray 12''  which pretty big for a cordless and watching the videos it  sprays pretty thick stuff.     

If it was available in UK at a good price I would consider it.

JMB

There is a sister to it that is over there. It is black, I cant think of the name of it just now, but its the same rig.

 

[mastercabman]

Actually this is nothing new.
Makita used to have one back in the 80's !  Stick battery! remember?!
Can't recall what type of sander it was.