MFT3 Basic to be released when??

[Lucky Dave]

Just set up my new MFT3.  Love it.  Now I want a basic model to make a large MFT.  Anybody got an idea when they might be available?

Tks

Dave

 

[Bob Marino]

Dave,

Nothing definate, but looks to be Fall 08.

Bob

 

[jaegerhund]

Any update on this?  Price?

Thanks,

Justin

 

[butzla]

I'm interested too,  frankly, I don't understand the holdup.  Take the MFT3,  scalp all the guide rails and ship in a smaller box. I'll be following this thread!

 

[Jimhart]

Possibly trying to keep up with the demand for full product? I'm guessing once this slows they'll be more willing to ship the table only.

Just conjecture.

Jim

 

[nadsab]

I'm interested too,  frankly, I don't understand the holdup.  Take the MFT3,  scalp all the guide rails and ship in a smaller box. I'll be following this thread!

The hold up, IMHO, is money.  Festool want's people to buy two complete table/fence set ups, even if you only need one.  It's greed in my opinion.

Because when I bought my two MFT  1080 tables at the local woodworking show, they I could not buy one table with a fence-rail and one without, they sold me two complete tables, even though I only needed the one fence and rail.

 

[greg mann]

I'm interested too,  frankly, I don't understand the holdup.  Take the MFT3,  scalp all the guide rails and ship in a smaller box. I'll be following this thread!

The hold up, IMHO, is money.  Festool want's people to buy two complete table/fence set ups, even if you only need one.  It's greed in my opinion.

Because when I bought my two MFT  1080 tables at the local woodworking show, they I could not buy one table with a fence-rail and one without, they sold me two complete tables, even though I only needed the one fence and rail.

1080 basics have been available for quite some time so I think the greed may have been your salesguy's. I am willing to bet that very few basics are sold in Europe (where space is really at a premium). I think having a 2nd table is more than likely an American phenomenon and Festool didn't anticipate selling the table stripped down until folks here started talking about using more than one.

 

[Bob Marino]

I'm interested too,  frankly, I don't understand the holdup.  Take the MFT3,  scalp all the guide rails and ship in a smaller box. I'll be following this thread!

The hold up, IMHO, is money.  Festool want's people to buy two complete table/fence set ups, even if you only need one.  It's greed in my opinion.

Because when I bought my two MFT  1080 tables at the local woodworking show, they I could not buy one table with a fence-rail and one without, they sold me two complete tables, even though I only needed the one fence and rail.

1080 basics have been available for quite some time so I think the greed may have been your salesguy's. I am willing to bet that very few basics are sold in Europe (where space is really at a premium). I think having a 2nd table is more than likely an American phenomenon and Festool didn't anticipate selling the table stripped down until folks here started talking about using more than one.

  Greg,

Good points and you are correct.

Bob

 

[Bob Marino]

The MFT Basic will be available November 15 - price is $475.00

Bob

 

[nadsab]

The MDT Basic will be available November 15 - price is $475.00

Bob

This would imply that the fence, the guide rail and the angle unit all combined, are only worth $100.00  since the table loaded up sells for $575.00.  Is this what Festool sells all three items combined for - $100.00?

 

[Bob Marino]

I don't know if/when they will offer such a "hardware kit" as they did with the MFT 1080. But general, when items are items are offered in a kit, they are less expensive then when ordered individually.

Bob

 

[Bob Marino]

Actually, here are the new FALL PROMOTIONS from Festool.

http://www.festoolusa.com/fall-promos-2008.html

Bob

 

[Jimhart]

The MDT Basic will be available November 15 - price is $475.00

Bob

This would imply that the fence, the guide rail and the angle unit all combined, are only worth $100.00  since the table loaded up sells for $575.00.  Is this what Festool sells all three items combined for - $100.00?

I'm really surprised by this price. Thought it would be $400, $425 tops.

I respect Festool's pricing policy. Am amused when a bundle generates a discount of 5 or 6%, like the current sandpaper bundles.

The Guide rail and limit stop alone are over $100. This leaves the angle unit, brackets at both ends, the deflector, the thingy that attaches the profile to the rails as 'free' when you buy the bundle. Their unbundling philosophy is obviously much different than bundling.

The price difference between the 2 tells me they really don't want to sell basic MFT/3's.

While I would very much like another MFT/3, I certainly don't need another set of hardware. The full table was hard to swallow at $575. The Basic is off my Christmas list at $475. Looks like I'll need to revisit adding some clamping options to the old workbench.

Had the rails not changed when they moved from the 1080/800 series I would think the pricing would be much more reasonable for the MFT/3 Basic because there would be a huge secondary market for the hardware kits.

While I'm sure the rail redesign was for functional reasons, I am also as sure as I can be that this played significantly into the decision to offer such a paltry discount for foregoing the hardware.

Jim

 

[honeydoman]

that is crazy for only 100 dollars less.  geez

it is like going out to dinner and ording a 1/2 rack of ribs say 6 ribs. and for 2$ more you can get a full rack...... so a full rack is only $4.00?  and everthing else is 14 bucks.....

the striped down table should be around $350, but at 475 how many are they going to sell.?  prob a lot.  knowing us tool whores!!!!

 

[nickao]

I agree honeydokreg,

To save a 100.00 is insane. Pay the 575.00 and sell the rest of the stuff for 200.00 or even more separately on eBay easy.

When I got my 1080's(6 of them) I purchased no basics and sold all the extra fences, etc on ebay and ended up paying about 50% of the then current price for the 1080's. Far better for me than buying a basic and saving a few dollars. Yes, it takes a little work to sell the stuff, but if someone is looking to save a few bucks its a great way to go.

Nickao

 

[Woodenfish]

Nick, I can see how on your previous purchase of the loaded 1080's it made financial sense for you to part out the unneeded fences to folks who were looking to upgrade their 1080 Basic. But as you know, up until now the only way to get the new model MFT/3 was to get it fully equipped, like it or not. Therefore, by Festool only reducing the price a $100, they've made your prior purchasing scheme impractical to duplicate.

If the MFT/3 Basic was correctly priced to reflect the real loss of value in not having the fence I might of been interested. But at the current pricing it doesn't. It would be a better idea for someone like me who would find having just one more table beneficial to get another fully equipped MFT/3. I imagine that someone starting out with needs more similar to yours, buying a bunch of MFT/3 Basic's as add-ons would make more economic sense. Quite a slick marketing choice by Festool to maximize price per sale.

 

[nickao]

Yes you are right. I had to move quick before the 1080's were phased out.

I do think the price should be closer to 150.00 less rather, 100.00 less for the basic MFT/3.

I still think getting one mft/3 and selling the fence and rail will save you money rather than getting the basic. The fence and rail go for about  200.00 after fees on eBay so the mft basic would cost you 375.00 instead of 475.00.

And Festool knows how to make money. I wonder how the economy will effect them in the next 6 months. Are the Festools to expensive to matter to the Festool clientele or will Festool lose every potential client who borderline could afford them during the good times(like me)? No way would I purchase what I purchased in March now.