My new toy

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

Thought I'd share a couple of pics of my new table saw  [big grin] it's a Hammer K3 winner, it's second hand but only 2years old and is in excellent condition it is a 3 phase machine so I have had to pick up an adapted inverter to run it as I only have a 240v supply in my garage workshop only had it wired up for a couple of days but has made quite a few cuts on it in oak, maple, walnut and plywood and it handled it all without missing a beat [big grin] it being the 3 phase model it's a 5hp motor so can't see it struggling with anything I can throw again it.

 

[ajones]

Sounds great, what did the inverter cost?

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

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[ajones]

looks great, quality kit, u need a bigger shop.. lucky to find that second hand and in good condition

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

The inverter cost me £420, which included the cost of the inverter (which was a 2nd hand unit), the new stop start switch and the reprogramming of the inverter to take 240v input and output 415v 3 phase which was done by a member on another uk woodworking forum (9fingers on ukworkshop). Again the inverter is in as new condition and can be seen in one of the pics I have posted. It runs the K3 without a problem I could highly recommend this option over a phase converter as its a lot smaller is virtually silent (only noise is the internal fan running which is nothing really) and it came in at about the 3rd of the cost of a rotary phase converter that I would have needed for my machine.

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

looks great, quality kit, u need a bigger shop.. lucky to find that second hand and in good condition

Lol I'd love a bigger space but this (single car garage) will have yo suffice for now [big grin]. Yeah I'v been very lucky with picking up the 2nd hand machines as they rarely come up in good condition. I bought the P/T direct from Felder uk it was a display model and had never been used but I picked it up with couple of extras for about 2/3's of the new ticket price, then I have picked up the bandsaw which is a 2012 model and the K3 which is a 2014 model both for around half price delivered which I have been very happy with as I would not have been able to have these machines if I'd had to pay the rrp. And they will last me a lifetime.

 

[Kev]

I'm really curious about the switch ... why have you got an "outie" ?

The red and grey is becoming a popular colour scheme in your shop [big grin]

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[bertv]

I'm really curious about the switch ... why have you got an "outie" ?
[member=44259]Mbconstructionjoinery[/member]

My guess is that it’s because inverters use power, even when not delivering… Guess, because the inverter for my solars has a cut in of about 30 Watts (which appears to be its own power consumption).

 

[joiner1970]

The inverter cost me £420, which included the cost of the inverter (which was a 2nd hand unit), the new stop start switch and the reprogramming of the inverter to take 240v input and output 415v 3 phase which was done by a member on another uk woodworking forum (9fingers on ukworkshop). Again the inverter is in as new condition and can be seen in one of the pics I have posted. It runs the K3 without a problem I could highly recommend this option over a phase converter as its a lot smaller is virtually silent (only noise is the internal fan running which is nothing really) and it came in at about the 3rd of the cost of a rotary phase converter that I would have needed for my machine.

Bob's very helpful isn't he I bought an old fobco drill and the motor turned the wrong way. I sent it to him and he rewired it to run the correct direction.

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

I'm really curious about the switch ... why have you got an "outie" ?

The red and grey is becoming a popular colour scheme in your shop [big grin]

[member=44259]Mbconstructionjoinery[/member]

Hi Kev the switch controls the inverter which then controls the power to the saw, I had to bypass the saws original switch which is still inside the case of the machine and can easily be reinstated if required. And yeah The red and grey colour scheme is coming along nicely in my small shop now  [big grin] not quite as prominent as the green and grey though lol

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

The inverter cost me £420, which included the cost of the inverter (which was a 2nd hand unit), the new stop start switch and the reprogramming of the inverter to take 240v input and output 415v 3 phase which was done by a member on another uk woodworking forum (9fingers on ukworkshop). Again the inverter is in as new condition and can be seen in one of the pics I have posted. It runs the K3 without a problem I could highly recommend this option over a phase converter as its a lot smaller is virtually silent (only noise is the internal fan running which is nothing really) and it came in at about the 3rd of the cost of a rotary phase converter that I would have needed for my machine.

Bob's very helpful isn't he I bought an old fobco drill and the motor turned the wrong way. I sent it to him and he rewired it to run the correct direction.

Yeah Bob was very helpful on the inverter front a very knowledgeable guy and nothing seemed to much trouble for him to explain and I had a lot of questions lol

 

[ajones]

You just need a red and grey spindle moulder and you have the set (if you can slide one on somewhere)

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

You just need a red and grey spindle moulder and you have the set (if you can slide one on somewhere)

Lol would be nice but I don't have much use for one and definitely don't have the room, I'v an Incra router table which covers all my bases in that aspect of woodworking

 

[Kev]

You just need a red and grey spindle moulder and you have the set (if you can slide one on somewhere)

Lol would be nice but I don't have much use for one and definitely don't have the room, I'v an Incra router table which covers all my bases in that aspect of woodworking

I think a substantial spindle moulder comes with the likelihood that you'll put sizeable pieces through it. Then you'll want a power feed (and the runway at each end for long timbers). I've been contemplating saw v's saw/spindle for a why (still no urgency as I'm not ready to pull the trigger) .. I'm currently thinking that space and $'s are the only good reason for a saw/spindle combo and ideally I'd like to keep things like a power feed off of the saw unit.

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

Yeah separate dedicated machines will always be better, but you have to have the space to have and use them and also deeper pockets to pay for them  [crying] I suppose it boils down to how much you will use a perticular machine and your budget as to weather you go separates or combined machines.

 

[DB10]

Just as a matter of interest did you get a quote from your power company to see how much it would cost to install 3 phase power to your house, the reason I ask is I had too look into this down here and I got a rough quote from my electrician of about $2k which is roughly £1k, just wondering what this might cost in the UK.

Thanks.

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

I never got a quote for installation of 3phase but if it as at all possible I would have thought it would very costly. All of my other machines are single phase I only picked up the 3phase K3 as it was the machine I wanted in excellent condition at I price I couldn't refuse and it runs perfectly on the inverter so happy days. I could see the attraction of getting a 3 phase supply as the machines are more readily available ( here in the uk anyway) and are generally more powerful but for me it wasn't really an option I'd considered.

 

[DB10]

Thanks for the. Reply,
The reason I ask has unfortunatley nothing to do with new toys in the gararge for me just yet  [sad]    but my wife had her eye on a new Smeg oven with an induction hob and the salesman mentioned to her that she will need to get 3 phase power installed if she wanted this oven. I thought this was a bit over the top for a domestic oven so looked into it for her. While its doable the whole process here can take a while as the electrical company will need to perform a survey on site and the full cost will only be determined after the survey. I was more surprised that Smeg even bothered with domestic 3 phase ovens.

 

[Holmz]

Thanks for the. Reply,
The reason I ask has unfortunatley nothing to do with new toys in the gararge for me just yet  [sad]    but my wife had her eye on a new Smeg oven with an induction hob and the salesman mentioned to her that she will need to get 3 phase power installed if she wanted this oven. I thought this was a bit over the top for a domestic oven so looked into it for her. While its doable the whole process here can take a while as the electrical company will need to perform a survey on site and the full cost will only be determined after the survey. I was more surprised that Smeg even bothered with domestic 3 phase ovens.

Just think of how that 3-phase can be also headed to the shed...  [big grin]

 

[Mbconstructionjoinery]

Thanks for the. Reply,
The reason I ask has unfortunatley nothing to do with new toys in the gararge for me just yet  [sad]    but my wife had her eye on a new Smeg oven with an induction hob and the salesman mentioned to her that she will need to get 3 phase power installed if she wanted this oven. I thought this was a bit over the top for a domestic oven so looked into it for her. While its doable the whole process here can take a while as the electrical company will need to perform a survey on site and the full cost will only be determined after the survey. I was more surprised that Smeg even bothered with domestic 3 phase ovens.

I'm suprised also that domestic ovens come in 3phase, although I think the Netherlands install both single and 3phase power when they build new homes. Would make for an expensive oven if you had to get 3phase installed to run it lol