Nailgun advice - Dewalt DC628K vs Bostitch GFN1564K?

[carlb40]

Hi guys i'm in the market for a nailgun within the next couple of months. Most chippies in the uk use 16ga nailers, which to me don't seem to have a decent holding power. I have a PC 15ga air nailer but don't really want to be lugging a compressor around as well as my other tools.
So i need a cordless nailer and as i prefer 15ga for trim work etc i have narrowed it down to the 2 in the title.

Neither are available in the uk, not sure why we don't get cordless 15ga nailers, when most manufactures sell the air versions over here.  [unsure] So i will be ordering one from the USA.
So if there are any users of either/ both guns please chime in with good/ bad points etc.

TIA  [big grin]

 

[Deansocial]

Very interested in this too

 

[carlb40]

Looks like we are on our own with these then Dean.  [big grin]

Although after looking at the 2 last night i'm more tempted by the bostitch as the Dewalt weighs almost 4kg  [scared]

 

[wow]

How about

C: None of the above?

I am looking at the new Senco Fusion 15ga brad/finish nailer. Quick Specs:

Item #: 5N0001N
Firing Mode: Selectable Actuation Trigger
Battery: One Li-ion 18v
Charger: 80% in 15 minutes, 100% in 45 minutes
Tool Weight: 6.2 lbs (2.81kg)
Height: 13.5" (343mm)
Length: 13" (330mm)
Width: 3" (76mm)
Fastener Capacity: 110

Fastener Specifications
Gauge . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15
Fastener Range. . . . . . . 1.1⁄4" – 2.1⁄2" (32mm - 65mm)
Finish . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bright Basic, Galv. & Stainless
Collation . . . . . . . . . . . 34° angle mylar taped strip

Full info here:

http://senco.com/ToolDetails.aspx?k=5N0001N

 

[Nippychippy]

Wow that's quiet smart looking petty it's only one battery I'll have to see if you can get it here in the uk

 

[wow]

Wow that's quiet smart looking petty it's only one battery I'll have to see if you can get it here in the uk

It uses the same battery system as my Senco drywall screwgun, so I have plenty of chargers and batteries. That's one of the things that attracted me to it.

Let me know if you have difficult locating one and I'll see about shipping it to you?

 

[richy3333]

I have the dewalt unit and have been more than happy with it. I like the fact that it doesn't use gas. Particularly up here in Scotland where the winters can be cold. No issues with the gas canisters slowing or stopping. I'd say in the hand it feels similar in weight to the Paslode. I get a days use on 1 x 4ah battery.

 

[jmbfestool]

Wow that's quiet smart looking petty it's only one battery I'll have to see if you can get it here in the uk

Had a play with one few years ago. 

Had mixed feelings liked it and didn't like it.

Some one on FOG has done a review on this nail gun im pretty sure.

Can't remember who.  I do remember one FOGGER saying the tip dips in making it difficult to see were you are firing the nail. 

Although I dislike dewalt as a whole I can't slag off their nail gun.

The nails guns I have used Makita, hitachi, paslode, bostich

With every single one you get miss fires, more nails than gas, not working because gas is playing up.   

Dewalt has been the best one yet.  Cheaper nails no gas.  Has lasted me 6years and still going.

My mates hitatchi lasted 1 year and required two battery replacements.  Paslode just forever buying extra gas because of the amount of miss fires over its life span.

Why have gas if battery powered alone is powerfull enough dewalt have proven that. 

Only downside to dewalt is it has dewalt on it and its not the smallest or lightest gun out there but it works so to make up for the extra weight I just do some push ups in the morning before I go to work to start using the dewalt nail gun.

 

[peter halle]

I have used the 16 gauge version of the Dewalt for years but it is getting long in the tooth and have switched to pneumatic instead of replacing it.  Never seen or used the Bostitch.

Before you order from the USA check and make sure that you can get the nails you will end up using locally.  The collation angle is quite different between models (20 degrees vs. 34 degrees) and would hate to see you have trouble getting fasteners.

Good Luck!

Peter

 

[junk731]

We're using Senco's  Fusion on a daily basis since they were released here, an 18ga and 16ga with absolutely no problems. Haven't tried a 15ga. yet. Really like the fact you don't need air or gas.

John

 

[carlb40]

How about

C: None of the above?

I am looking at the new Senco Fusion 15ga brad/finish nailer. Quick Specs:

Item #: 5N0001N
Firing Mode: Selectable Actuation Trigger
Battery: One Li-ion 18v
Charger: 80% in 15 minutes, 100% in 45 minutes
Tool Weight: 6.2 lbs (2.81kg)
Height: 13.5" (343mm)
Length: 13" (330mm)
Width: 3" (76mm)
Fastener Capacity: 110

Fastener Specifications
Gauge . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15
Fastener Range. . . . . . . 1.1⁄4" – 2.1⁄2" (32mm - 65mm)
Finish . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bright Basic, Galv. & Stainless
Collation . . . . . . . . . . . 34° angle mylar taped strip

Full info here:

http://senco.com/ToolDetails.aspx?k=5N0001N

I did look into the senco earlier in the year. However after watching some videos and seeing a lot of times the nails were never sunk properly put me off. The final nail in its coffin was the price. Over here it costs nearly £500 with one battery, a 2nd battery is another £70.

 

[carlb40]

I have used the 16 gauge version of the Dewalt for years but it is getting long in the tooth and have switched to pneumatic instead of replacing it.  Never seen or used the Bostitch.

Before you order from the USA check and make sure that you can get the nails you will end up using locally.  The collation angle is quite different between models (20 degrees vs. 34 degrees) and would hate to see you have trouble getting fasteners.

Good Luck!

Peter

Cheers Peter. The 15g DA nails are sold in a lot of places, the fn ones used by bostitch can be found via a few sellers. One is an online bostitch shop.  [smile]

 

[wow]

The final nail in its coffin was the price. Over here it costs nearly £500 with one battery, a 2nd battery is another £70.

[eek]!!! That would give me pause as well. I can buy it for $305, but at today's exchange rate that would make it almost $800 for you. YIKES!!!!

Not sure why the almost 3X price difference?!!

 

[Sean7a]

Have some insight here.  We have a lot of experience with these guns.

Fusions... We've had terrible luck.  Many of our competitors have also.  At the same time there are pockets of folks out there who love'em and report no trouble.  They've been unreliable and at this point, for the 3rd time, I've taken them out of the store and we no longer stock them.  Seems to be battery issues that have never been fixed.  Likely due to the fast chargers they used to market these batteries for.

The DeWalt is tried n true, but heavy n old.  Also, some guys don't like waiting for that fly wheel to "spool"

Lastly, the Bostitch is more or less a Paslode and I think y'all know the pro's n con's there. 

I'd say go Bostitch, but probably buy a Paslode version.  You'll likely have more accessibility to parts and accessories (think gas and batteries!) if the Bostitch does in fact have proprietary tips on their gas.

 

[carlb40]

The final nail in its coffin was the price. Over here it costs nearly £500 with one battery, a 2nd battery is another £70.

[eek]!!! That would give me pause as well. I can buy it for $305, but at today's exchange rate that would make it almost $800 for you. YIKES!!!!

Not sure why the almost 3X price difference?!!

Yeah not exactly the cheapest gun on the market. I think like with everything in the UK by the time various taxes are added to it, it bumps the prices right up.  [sad]

 

[carlb40]

Have some insight here.  We have a lot of experience with these guns.

Fusions... We've had terrible luck.  Many of our competitors have also.  At the same time there are pockets of folks out there who love'em and report no trouble.  They've been unreliable and at this point, for the 3rd time, I've taken them out of the store and we no longer stock them.  Seems to be battery issues that have never been fixed.  Likely due to the fast chargers they used to market these batteries for.

The DeWalt is tried n true, but heavy n old.  Also, some guys don't like waiting for that fly wheel to "spool"

Lastly, the Bostitch is more or less a Paslode and I think y'all know the pro's n con's there. 

I'd say go Bostitch, but probably buy a Paslode version.  You'll likely have more accessibility to parts and accessories (think gas and batteries!) if the Bostitch does in fact have proprietary tips on their gas.

Thank's Sean.  Yeah i saw a lot of reviews slating the reliability of the senco guns. The gas is interchangeable from what i can see. Bostitch even state on their website they warranty the guns no matter who's gas you use.

I have never seen a paslode 15g gun, and their website doesn't show one?

 

[carlb40]

Wow that's quiet smart looking petty it's only one battery I'll have to see if you can get it here in the uk

I forgot to add a link for you when i got home earlier. FFX is the cheapest for it in the uk.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SENCO-Fusion-F-15-18V-15-Gauge-2-1-2-Angled-Finish-Nailer-5N0001N-NEW-/281423629004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418627cacc
A tenner cheaper on their website.

CPO outlets on ebay (from usa) are the cheapest out of the uk. More than likely the place WOW mentions above as to where he can get it from cheap.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SENCO-Fusion-F-15-18V-15-Gauge-2-1-2-Angled-Finish-Nailer-5N0001N-NEW-/281423629004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418627cacc

With postage / import duty etc it works out to around £240 ish

 

[Nippychippy]

Keep us posted on what you finally get my paslode is starting to do my head because I have been using oak I am getting a lot of splits I find the way the nails are designed it either pops out at an angle thruthe work or if you allow for that and twist the gun 90 degrees it splits  [scared]  that's my problem with nailers

 

[carlb40]

Keep us posted on what you finally get my paslode is starting to do my head because I have been using oak I am getting a lot of splits I find the way the nails are designed it either pops out at an angle thruthe work or if you allow for that and twist the gun 90 degrees it splits  [scared]  that's my problem with nailers

At the moment it is looking like the Bostitch. To me almost 4kg for the dewalt 15g gun is too much. I hate using my Makita 18v drill that is 2.5kg let alone adding more weight and bulk with that nail gun.
The gas isn't an issue as being a site chippie gas and nails are supplied. Although being a 15g gun no uk sites will have the nails, so i will suplly nails and take their gas.  [big grin]

The annoying thing is i have a Porter cable 15g cordless nail gun, but they stopped making the gas for it a few years after bringing it out.  [mad]

 

[bkharman]

The final nail in its coffin was the price. Over here it costs nearly £500 with one battery, a 2nd battery is another £70.

[eek]!!! That would give me pause as well. I can buy it for $305, but at today's exchange rate that would make it almost $800 for you. YIKES!!!!

Not sure why the almost 3X price difference?!!

I have a love hate relationship with Senco.  One of their plants and showrooms is about 5 miles from me.  I go in on occasion (my mate works there) and try some stuff out.  They tell me to take it home and play with it for a few weeks or so... all of which is really good.  But I don't like the feel of it.  I have a Bostich (battery and cell) that i use on occasion, but generally use my compressor for anything long term.  In fact, the last time I use the Bostich was to put up crown in my coffered ceiling... that was almost 2 years ago!!

Good luck.