New Festool Products

[peter halle]

I saw this on Facebook a couple of minutes ago.  I have no information, but this might answer any questions about availability of the current SysLite:

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Peter

 

[Hrvoje85]

This just showed up on my Youtube feed.

 

[luvmytoolz]

I want the torches! Talk about super useful!

 

[squall_line]

Although I appreciate the built-in battery of the KAL-II, I like the adjustability of the KAL-C.  I wonder if it's too late to cancel my Recon order of the KAL-II from last week...

 

[semenza]

I say YES! to both lights and the air cleaner.

Seth

 

[Holzhacker]

Air cleaner, really?
I get the idea of good health, not breathing in crap, potential carcinogens, etc. I'm surprised I'm still alive given all the crap I've sucked in over the decades.
Nonetheless this seems like another one of those smart ideas by 30 something mama's boys who want everything clean and wonderful, don't want to get their hands or work pants dirty and think job sites should be like offices.
For a guy working alone one job site, I guess. A regular job site with real men working, cutting, sweeping and kicking crap all over its a waste of money.

Hey, what's that thing you got there?
It's my job site air cleaner so I can breathe healthy!
I'd never hear the end of it. Can't say on this forum what I would be labeled as.

The lights are awesome. Will have to see how cost effective they are.

 

[squall_line]

Air cleaner, really?
I get the idea of good health, not breathing in junk, potential carcinogens, etc. I'm surprised I'm still alive given all the junk I've sucked in over the decades.
Nonetheless this seems like another one of those smart ideas by 30 something mama's boys who want everything clean and wonderful, don't want to get their hands or work pants dirty and think job sites should be like offices.
For a guy working alone one job site, I guess. A regular job site with real men working, cutting, sweeping and kicking junk all over its a waste of money.

Hey, what's that thing you got there?
It's my job site air cleaner so I can breathe healthy!
I'd never hear the end of it. Can't say on this forum what I would be labeled as.

The lights are awesome. Will have to see how cost effective they are.

If you wanted to use an air scrubber, I think you'd be labeled as a perfectly normal person on this forum.

I'm still livid at the flooring contractor who filled my house with concrete dust and thought nothing of it because they were "real men working, cutting," etc, etc.  I'm still finding and cleaning the abrasive powder more than 6 months later.  That contractor (and the company who hired them) will never set foot on my property again. 

In contrast, my general used concrete saws, jack hammers, and grinders to take out full sections of the exact same basement floor, and mixed new concrete from bags in the basement and made very little mess outside of their work area because they, *gasp* took 15 minutes to put up plastic sheeting and put a fan in the window to create a negative-pressure environment and contain their chaos.

The EU and Aussie equivalents of OSHA are significantly more concerned about silicosis and other lung diseases than OSHA is, but don't be surprised when job sites in the US are finally required to actually care about the dust they create.

 

[bwehman]

Agreed. That whole mentality of "real men working" is old, outdated and has no place on the modern job site. And who doesn't want to work in cleaner/healthier air?

Add to it that customer expectations are evolving too. A contained, clean renovation inside a customer's home is no longer a selling point or an added benefit, it's just a baseline assumption that as a professional, you'll make sure the mess doesn't spread to other parts of the home not being worked on.

 

[usernumber1]

This has to be the most insecure thing I've heard someone say in a long time

"Real men" have to impress each other with machismo constantly right. that's basically what it comes down to

A regular job site with real men working, cutting, sweeping and kicking junk all over its a waste of money.

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I'd never hear the end of it. Can't say on this forum what I would be labeled as.

 

[semenza]

Air cleaner, really?
I get the idea of good health, not breathing in junk, potential carcinogens, etc. I'm surprised I'm still alive given all the junk I've sucked in over the decades.
Nonetheless this seems like another one of those smart ideas by 30 something mama's boys who want everything clean and wonderful, don't want to get their hands or work pants dirty and think job sites should be like offices.
For a guy working alone one job site, I guess. A regular job site with real men working, cutting, sweeping and kicking junk all over its a waste of money.

Hey, what's that thing you got there?
It's my job site air cleaner so I can breathe healthy!
I'd never hear the end of it. Can't say on this forum what I would be labeled as.

The lights are awesome. Will have to see how cost effective they are.

So, then, right, this isn't for those job sites you speak of. This is for the sites that need to be kept clean. Such as the sites I work on. Generally peoples lived in homes. Living rooms, dining rooms, etc. With carpet , drapes furnishings. Rooms that will be in use by the occupants in between my work sessions.

I know for sure that my customers appreciated the fact that I clean up at the end of the day and put the room back into usable fashion. And they tell others about the way I work.

Seth

 

[Holzhacker]

I was keeping job sites clean 30 years ago because its what made my phone ring. My phone still rings because I use DC and clean up extremely well.
An air cleaner for rehab job sites will likely be about as useless as all those apps that make guys think they can do a job without actually working.
For upper bracket or institutional work it will likely be handy.

As far as the responder who hired the filthy contractor, you should have known better, should have had specifications in the contract about job site conditions. Typical homeowner didn't do their homework and low ball contractor who gives the rest of us bad reputations.

For those of you who think it's easy to find real men who know how to actually work 12 hour days, get a job done and be rock stars about it; go for it, find them, hire them, see how well that goes for you. You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Go sit in your office and be quiet.
Every contractor I know could be making a fortune if they could find workers who didn't whine about having to work, their baby mama wants them to show up by X time, sweat and get dirty or meet expectations. Construction is hard work that requires stamina and long term vision to stick with it. It is way to costly to train someone up who isn't going to stick around because they think they'll be a rich influencer or tiktok moron.

 

[Coen]

Air cleaner, really?
I get the idea of good health, not breathing in junk, potential carcinogens, etc. I'm surprised I'm still alive given all the junk I've sucked in over the decades.
Nonetheless this seems like another one of those smart ideas by 30 something mama's boys who want everything clean and wonderful, don't want to get their hands or work pants dirty and think job sites should be like offices.
For a guy working alone one job site, I guess. A regular job site with real men working, cutting, sweeping and kicking junk all over its a waste of money.

Hey, what's that thing you got there?
It's my job site air cleaner so I can breathe healthy!
I'd never hear the end of it. Can't say on this forum what I would be labeled as.

The lights are awesome. Will have to see how cost effective they are.

You sound like the exact type of guy not wearing hearing protection either.

I know a few people... they wear the glasses, the gloves... but because their employer never forced them to wear the hearing protection... they didn't. And now they say they got near deaf because of the job. Even though the employer provided them with hearing protection. But 30 years ago that was something for mama's boys. Because cuts in hands or eyes are obvious... but who is going to see hearing loss...

 

[Svar]

As far as the responder who hired the filthy contractor, you should have known better, should have had specifications in the contract about job site conditions. Typical homeowner didn't do their homework and low ball contractor who gives the rest of us bad reputations.

In other words should have hired a contractor who uses air cleaner.

 

[Lincoln]

Tell us what you really think, Holzhacker  [laughing]

 

[squall_line]

As far as the responder who hired the filthy contractor, you should have known better, should have had specifications in the contract about job site conditions. Typical homeowner didn't do their homework and low ball contractor who gives the rest of us bad reputations.

The flooring contractor came in behind the general who replaced the section of floor and the sewer pipe.  The flooring subcontractor that made the mess was hired by the flooring contractor, who was recommended by the General, who kept a clean and tidy work space.  I had no reason to believe until the work started that the sub who was hired by the flooring contractor would be filthy.

That is all of the personal insults I will address at this time.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Other than some quicky, in-out in one day jobs, every jobsite I have been on has an air filtration device of some kind. Most of them also have sticky pads on the floor at the entrance and exit points, to keep from tracking dust/debris from our shoes.
There are a few union job-sites where we are not allowed to clean up after ourselves (that's a laborers' job) but the air scrubber is running. Sometimes they put up plastic curtains everywhere and blow a fan out a window, trying to maintain negative pressure, which also helps keep dust from migrating.
Glasses, every second of the day. Gloves, when handling laminate sheets, they increase grip, when pulling out of the rack.
Hearing protection.....too late. Tinnitus from a fever (as a kid) and rock concerts in the late 70s- early 80, did their thing. Thankfully, it hasn't gotten worse.

 

[FestitaMakool]

I just saw these new products on Festool’s .de site. (Among also kids drill and plunge saw  [big grin])

But guys, before you plunge into portable lighting - have a look what’s on offer for photography/video making.. there are plenty of portable really good LED lights available (including the new Norwegian Kelvin Play…)
To name a few: Nanlite, Godox, SmallRig.. there are many.
Common for most are tripod 1/4” mounting, most “smaller” have built in battery - and can operate on mains - meant to operate continuously. But best of all, the best mobile ones has good battery life, selectable color temperature, some extended RGB - and equally stepless (dimming) output.

For myself, I’m looking at Nanlite tubes. The smallest one is really portable and has a great light output and light spread.

The new Syslite with stepless output, mains option and 5000 lumen max is interesting though.
Both lights seems very fair priced. (Though you get more for your money, and don’t hang up your tools battery - with a “photo” light.

For you in the US I might check out B&H for what’s available. The option to choose color temperature is big for me..

That spanner set is also new..

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

For those of you who think it's easy to find real men who know how to actually work 12 hour days, get a job done and be rock stars about it; go for it, find them, hire them, see how well that goes for you. You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Go sit in your office and be quiet.
Every contractor I know could be making a fortune if they could find workers who didn't whine about having to work, their baby mama wants them to show up by X time, sweat and get dirty or meet expectations. Construction is hard work that requires stamina and long term vision to stick with it. It is way to costly to train someone up who isn't going to stick around because they think they'll be a rich influencer or tiktok moron.

(Snip)

I'll make the gentle suggestion that if you need to work 12 hour days to make ends meet, you need to seriously reconsider your business structure or find a different career. Also, ridiculous to expect entry level workers to put in 12 hour days, there's more to life than work. I'm working fewer hours/week now than I was a few years ago but earning double, mostly due to identifying a specific market niche (custom doors, windows, and repair work), and charging an appropriate rate to fill an underserved market need. No need to work 12 hour days when I can cover all my expenses and bring home a healthy income working 40 hour weeks (or less), more time to spend with my family, travel, and/or build the business.

 

[luvmytoolz]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member] I actually have a number of photography LED light and panels, but they're always such a pain to assemble and the batteries add further inconvenience.

Now that I've bought into the Festool battery platform in a big way, being able to use the same batteries as my tools is just invaluable, so I'd be very happy to pretty much replace most of my lighting where suitable with the new Festool ones, the convenience and never needing to worry about the batteries would save me so much time and mucking around.

 

[usernumber1]

I've seen someone mention scangrip lights. They have adapters for every brand including festool. Has anyone tried them?

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member] I actually have a number of photography LED light and panels, but they're always such a pain to assemble and the batteries add further inconvenience.

Now that I've bought into the Festool battery platform in a big way, being able to use the same batteries as my tools is just invaluable, so I'd be very happy to pretty much replace most of my lighting where suitable with the new Festool ones, the convenience and never needing to worry about the batteries would save me so much time and mucking around.