New Hammer Drill

Michael Kellough said:
Is that even a ladder? I sure wouldn’t want to stand on those narrow rungs.
These are common in central Europe, usualy are made of beech and grain is strictly followed. The steps are full-depth mortices.

You would be surprised how strong these are .. definitely stronger than cheapo aluminum ones.
 
Michael Kellough said:
I mean my feet would be uncomfortable. I’d rather put a plank between a pair of them.
Ah, yeah, normally those who stand on these /for a prolonged period/ wear reinforced boots to mitigate that

This type of a ladder is very, very old, my guess is early 19th century when the stamped connecting armatures became affordable.

Unlike any other ladder, one can "walk" these. Super-efficient for a painter:


 
As someone that has spent a consider amount of my working life going up and down ladders of one sort or another, I hate the rung type steps on the Litte Giants and the various multi ladders.  I am spoiled in that as a commercial glazer I am used to double step ladders from 4' to 8'.  One disadvantage to being used to these is when using regular step ladders, is stepping across to the other side with one foot thinking there will be a step there.
 
mino said:
Michael Kellough said:
I mean my feet would be uncomfortable. I’d rather put a plank between a pair of them.
Ah, yeah, normally those who stand on these /for a prolonged period/ wear reinforced boots to mitigate that

This type of a ladder is very, very old, my guess is early 19th century when the stamped connecting armatures became affordable.

Unlike any other ladder, one can "walk" these. Super-efficient for a painter:


Aside from that type of ladder probably not even being allowed on a pro site in the USA, the safety officer would be having a fit if someone was "walking" it.

Seth
 
So much to say, so little time ... I'll try to keep it short.

For those employed and falling under jurisdiction of a certain regulator/insurer, ladders have to have steps that are at least 80mm wide these days, in Germany. For those wanting to continue using ladders with narrower steps there are after market 80mm steps and/or plateaus that can be used to retrofit older ladders and therefore meet the requirements on the step that ultimately corresponds to the needed working height. These can also be had for wooden ladders.

These wooden ladders are very, very common with painters and dry-wallers. If I remember correctly, in the pre high-end composite/plastic materials time, these were also used by electricians & janitors because you're pretty well "isolated" while on them.

I don't know if "walking" with these is actually permitted/ considered good practice. BUT it is done day in day out. However, the stance shown is actually recommended to have better support of the feet/soles. Add the afore mentioned safety footwear with reinforced soles, it becomes less of an issue (the narrow steps).

But again, ladders with narrow steps can be considered being phased out in Germany for quite some time now.

Take it with a grain of salt as this is coming from a (still) pretty obese guy: Even with high-quality safety footwear and reinforced soles, narrow steps are getting old quick and a pain in the foot ;). Not fun, unless you can indeed stand on the ladder as shown in the video.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
I follow a German carpenter/plasterer on Instagram, who only uses high quality gear/dies high quality work, and I've seen him 'walk' with that type of ladder in a lot of his videos.
 
SRSemenza said:
mino said:
Michael Kellough said:
I mean my feet would be uncomfortable. I’d rather put a plank between a pair of them.
Ah, yeah, normally those who stand on these /for a prolonged period/ wear reinforced boots to mitigate that

This type of a ladder is very, very old, my guess is early 19th century when the stamped connecting armatures became affordable.

Unlike any other ladder, one can "walk" these. Super-efficient for a painter:


Aside from that type of ladder probably not even being allowed on a pro site in the USA, the safety officer would be having a fit if someone was "walking" it.

Seth


Good thing you can see the safety officer from a kilometer away when standing on that thing.

I've seen people 'walk' with modern work stairs from that type too. Although the version with wide steps on one side and none on the other. It's probably not so good for the life expectancy of the stairs...

I have been "caught" by a safety officer for having non-insulated stairs near my workplace once. But I had an easy way out... "Does it look like I ever use these?", which was actually the truth; I didn't use them. The 20 cm shorter coworker that actually got these stairs and used them was on strike that day.  [big grin]
 
This may be my new hammer drill if it comes to Australia.
I dont think i read this thread properly last year...i didnt realise this had a chisel function and isnt the current offering i can get here.
Plus the multiple chucks is a good thing.

I have been contemplating replacing my current 4a-22 Hilti for a while.
Mine doesnt have chisel mode, or a light, and is about 10 or 12yrs old ( was second hand when i got it), and im down to 2 batteries which are now pretty old, and its had a hard life - used for coring 50mm holes in core filled besser bricks, regular 28mm and up holes without missing a beat, but i still have to drag around a corded hilti for chiseling.

And i dont really want to go 18v milwaukee
 
Walking ladders... yeah, "a pain in the foot," not to mention the pain in other places if your foot slips off the rung!  [eek]
 
Crispy said:
Plus the multiple chucks is a good thing.

That was once my thought. But it adds length. Then it also turned out the dust collection thingy (sold separately) wasn't designed with that extra length in mind.

For my next hammer drill I will specifically buy a model without interchangeable chuck. I want the least amount of length to make crawl space work easier. In my country houses build from ~1970 and newer typically have concrete floors. The crawl space underneath can be less than half a meter. When insulation is retrofitted this shrinks even more while the required drill bit length increases at the same time.

Sadly Festool doesn't even bother to list the length of the KHC...  [huh]
 
I understand that the tool names are typically an abbreviation of a German tool name, but something is seriously broken when you decide that it's not at all a bad idea to name one of your new tools tool KHC when you already sell an HKC, even if the full name is KHC-18 vs HKC-55.

I mean, have a hard enough time keeping CXS/CSX or TXS/TSX straight...
 
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