New pocket hole jig
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The QuikJig works great. I like that you don't have to change the location of the bit collar, and that it shows you exactly what length screw to use. I think it's much nicer than the Kreg, and it has great build quality--feels like a lifetime tool.
Well this application would purely be a bench setup as I already have some of Kregs smaller jigs for the reasons mentioned.
I really like the super quick and easy setup of the PC, but questioned the quality because of PC's recent huge decline in quality.
I really like the super quick and easy setup of the PC, but questioned the quality because of PC's recent huge decline in quality.
Kreg on the right and Porter Cable on the left. I have both and everything about the usability is in favor of the PC - it's just much simpler and easier to use. It's only drawback is that the tolerance of the sleeve isn't as tight as the Kreg. The Kreg uses a full length metal sleeve that keeps the bit more accurately aligned. The PC only uses metal at the top so the bit can wander or misalign. It's not the end of the world and at some point I'll make a sleeve to fix it but for now I'm using the Kreg a bit more.
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Gregor Thank You for the comparison
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I know its a lot more $, but have you looked at a kreg foreman? They have electric or pnuematic models. It might be more than you need, however it sure would be convenient not to use handheld drill.
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sakurama said:
Kreg on the right and Porter Cable on the left. I have both and everything about the usability is in favor of the PC - it's just much simpler and easier to use. It's only drawback is that the tolerance of the sleeve isn't as tight as the Kreg. The Kreg uses a full length metal sleeve that keeps the bit more accurately aligned. The PC only uses metal at the top so the bit can wander or misalign. It's not the end of the world and at some point I'll make a sleeve to fix it but for now I'm using the Kreg a bit more.
Gregor
That's interesting...I never noticed that on my PC. Will have to examine. That certainly would seem to be a point in favor of the Kreg.
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Gregor,
Are those two holes from the PC at the same setting? That looks like it would change the drive depth of the screw by enough to either not hold or go through the face on a the mating piece. Depending on which way it is shifted.
Seth
Are those two holes from the PC at the same setting? That looks like it would change the drive depth of the screw by enough to either not hold or go through the face on a the mating piece. Depending on which way it is shifted.
Seth
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Hi Seth,
Yes, they are. The jig has a sort of bar that sets depth and one side is a hole and the other is a slot to allow for adjustable spacing via an adjusting screw. That slot combined with the lack of a full length sleeve allows for more slop on one side, and probably contributed to the uneven holes and occasional blow through.
You can see it in the photo.
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The PC looks like a well made tool but to me the holes not always being set to the correct depth makes it a non-starter. Last thing I want to have to do is remake a part or try patching where screws came through. Granted the pocket portion is almost always in a hidden location but screw points coming through finished surfaces is a problem I don't want.
I have my Kreg attached to a piece of plywood so it is as ready to use as the PC would be as far as I can tell.
Seth
I have my Kreg attached to a piece of plywood so it is as ready to use as the PC would be as far as I can tell.
Seth
SRSemenza said:
Ditto on all points.
I have an older model of Kreg. It is adjustable, but i make a couple of sample plunges every time i need to make a change in screws or wood thickness. Once set, it stays dead on. I have mine mounted on a piece of plywood extending a few inches to each side. I just pull it off the shelf, a single Festoy clamp and I am good to go. The only problem (only if I take time to think it is a problem) is that I have to reach around to far side to lock/unlock clamp. I am tempted to get the new #5, but each time i start to get serious, I think of another toy that is more useful and probably more [scared] expensive.
As Seth says, the uneven plunging makes the PC a deal breaker. In the pics above, even tho my work sometimes is not quite purfic, that unevenness would not be acceptable. I have enough small wood scraps in my shop as it is. Big ones >>>>>>>>>>> !!! ??? ???
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Tinker, Since I have both older and newer Kreg jigs, I think the easy to adjust holding clamp on the new K5 is probably its biggest selling point. All the other 'extras' on it are nice, but more of an slight upgrade versus a huge one for previous jig owners.Tinker said:
Having the clamp handle in the front of the jig really does speed things up since you're not reaching around a large cabinet part or piece of wood to loosen or tighten as with some of the older versions. [embarassed]
I have seen it demoed and the other feature with the #5 that is of most interest to me is that you don't seem to have to constantly keep tightening that lock nut on the clamping rod. That is of even greater improvement IMHO than having to handle on the operator's side.
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