New soft close hinges

[waynelang2001]

Are you sure that the soft-close-system is giving you problems?  If you have three hinges that are not perfectly in line you get an effect where the door closes very slow and somtimes doesn't close completly.  Maybe you should try to remove the middle hinge to verify.  Furthermore you have to make sure that the doorrs are ±2mm in front of the cabinets.  If they are stuck against the frame than you can also get the problem you described.

I don't know how many experience you have using this type of hinges, and hope I'm not offending you with these, to an experienced person, very evident remarks.

That is a good point.I am going to a new job today and will make another video.This time i will close and open and reclose the door to make sure it is off and see what happens.I also will try to remove the middle hinge and see if that does anything different.
This is the first set of cabinets with those new hinges that i'm dealling with,but i'm not new to the "soft close technology"

when you take the middle hinge off just try to open an close it while you change the switch, that should show weather or not the indeed can be switched off completely

 

[mastercabman]

Got to the other kitchen today but did not have time to video.Tried the soft close and seem a little better.
I tried switching off,shutting door reopen then close again and it still had a soft close action.Not as bad but still slowed down.
I guess i am so used to the other device that it look like it's not working smooth.But they do kick early,about 45* and shutting really slow.
I will try again tomorrow to video it.

 

[waynelang2001]

Got to the other kitchen today but did not have time to video.Tried the soft close and seem a little better.
I tried switching off,shutting door reopen then close again and it still had a soft close action.Not as bad but still slowed down.
I guess i am so used to the other device that it look like it's not working smooth.But they do kick early,about 45* and shutting really slow.
I will try again tomorrow to video it.

mastercabman,

Do yourself a favour and take the hinge off and try opening and closing it on different setting, see what the action is like when it is off the cabinet. If it still closer slower on both settings then you will have your answer. If it has no soft close action on the 0 setting then I would say the hinges are not adjusted right on the cabinet.

 

[ccmviking]

    They work exactly like I stated in an earlier post.  Maybe you are not switching them off all the way or I guess,  (unlikely) you may have some defective hinges.  You should be able to see in the attached pictures the plunger in when off and out when on.  There is no effective cushioned closing when properly switched off.

Chris...

 

[ccmviking]

ON

OFF

 

[mastercabman]

ccmviking,i did exactly what you did and it did not "snap" shut like that,and yes i shut it and reopen and shut it a few time and still had somewhat of a soft close.The kitchen that i just work on was better with the soft close.I turn 2 out of 3 hinges off and it was pretty smooth,but if i turn them all off,there was still a little soft at the end. ???
I was too busy today to make a video.I will try again on monday as i am starting a new kitchen with the same hinges.

 

[waynelang2001]

ccmviking,i did exactly what you did and it did not "snap" shut like that,and yes i shut it and reopen and shut it a few time and still had somewhat of a soft close.The kitchen that i just work on was better with the soft close.I turn 2 out of 3 hinges off and it was pretty smooth,but if i turn them all off,there was still a little soft at the end. ???
I was too busy today to make a video.I will try again on monday as i am starting a new kitchen with the same hinges.

did you take the hinge off and try it ??? I think we all really want to see a video of the hinge off the cabinet and door and still soft closing when its off.

 

[mastercabman]

OK here's a video with the hinge taking off.
This set of cabinets are much better with the soft close.
But as you will see in the video,you can't 100% turn the soft close action off.
Untitled

 

[jmbfestool]

I don't get why this depate is still going on.    I said before and the video clearly states it.  It does NOT have turn of function only a switch for heavy and light dirty doors meaning it only can be switched between a soft soft closer or a strong soft closer

I dnt know why you have been asked to remove hinge check the door with two hinges instead of three. Check if the hinges are fitted correctly.  Try the hinge on its own etc...

Jmb

 

[waynelang2001]

I don't get why this depate is still going on.    I said before and the video clearly states it.   It does NOT have turn of function only a switch for heavy and light dirty doors meaning it only can be switched between a soft soft closer or a strong soft closer

I dnt know why you have been asked to remove hinge check the door with two hinges instead of three. Check if the hinges are fitted correctly.  Try the hinge on its own etc...

Jmb

The Blum website clearly states that the soft close can be switched off. I think in the video they show that you can switch off one hinge on a lighter door to make the soft close function a little less heavy duty.

 

[waynelang2001]

OK here's a video with the hinge taking off.
This set of cabinets are much better with the soft close.
But as you will see in the video,you can't 100% turn the soft close action off.
Untitled

are these actually blum hinges then ????  Because ccmviking's video's show that it can be turned off.

 

[mastercabman]

I don't get why this depate is still going on.    I said before and the video clearly states it.   It does NOT have turn of function only a switch for heavy and light dirty doors meaning it only can be switched between a soft soft closer or a strong soft closer

I dnt know why you have been asked to remove hinge check the door with two hinges instead of three. Check if the hinges are fitted correctly.  Try the hinge on its own etc...

Jmb

JMB  Their website clearly state that you can turn them off.http://blum.com/compact/us/technics/damper
On some doors,after turning all hinges off,the door still close very slowly,VERY SLOW.
Did you watch the video from ccmviking?  In the off position the hinge "snaps" shut,in my video it has a little soft close at the end.

 

[waynelang2001]

I don't get why this depate is still going on.    I said before and the video clearly states it.   It does NOT have turn of function only a switch for heavy and light dirty doors meaning it only can be switched between a soft soft closer or a strong soft closer

I dnt know why you have been asked to remove hinge check the door with two hinges instead of three. Check if the hinges are fitted correctly.  Try the hinge on its own etc...

Jmb

JMB  Their website clearly state that you can turn them off.http://blum.com/compact/us/technics/damper
On some doors,after turning all hinges off,the door still close very slowly,VERY SLOW.
Did you watch the video from ccmviking?  In the off position the hinge "snaps" shut,in my video it has a little soft close at the end.

I think you need to speak to your supplier on this one now mastercabman. It there must be some explanation why your hinges act that way. The only other thing I would suggest if you havnt done it already, is to open the hinge, turn it off, then try to press the soft close mechanism closed with your finger or something. Maybe the mechanism isnt being closed enough when you just close the hinge to turn it off. I know from other integrated blumotion hinges that the soft close work like a ratchet when you turn it off.

 

[jmbfestool]

I don't get why this depate is still going on.    I said before and the video clearly states it.   It does NOT have turn of function only a switch for heavy and light dirty doors meaning it only can be switched between a soft soft closer or a strong soft closer

I dnt know why you have been asked to remove hinge check the door with two hinges instead of three. Check if the hinges are fitted correctly.  Try the hinge on its own etc...

Jmb

JMB  Their website clearly state that you can turn them off.http://blum.com/compact/us/technics/damper
On some doors,after turning all hinges off,the door still close very slowly,VERY SLOW.
Did you watch the video from ccmviking?  In the off position the hinge "snaps" shut,in my video it has a little soft close at the end.

No I didn't missed it on my iPad videos don't show up only when you click on it.   I see ccmvikings hinges snap shut.

Only thing I can think of their must be two types of the same hinges.    Like you said the web site clearly states deactivation of soft close and ccmvikings hinges show that.      .   The video clearly states it can be switched from Strong to weak soft close and your hinges clearly show that.  

So I'm going for the assumption their are two sorts.  You have the the weak/strong soft closers ones and ccmvikings has the on and off soft closers.  Simples!!

Best way to find out is contact Blum! They are good at replying I contacted them and got an email back pretty quick not so long ago.

 

[mastercabman]

wayne/jmb thanks.I will try to get in touch with Blum.Maybe it is what it is and i just have to work with it.

 

[waynelang2001]

wayne/jmb thanks.I will try to get in touch with Blum.Maybe it is what it is and i just have to work with it.

Let use know how it all works out.