New stuff from Prebena / Schneider

[Bob Gerritsen]

Or at least new to me... I've been reading the couple threads on compressors in systainers and such and thought this might interest a few of you.

Not sure if they are really new but there are these tackers/nailers from Prebena with integrated compressed air canister:

http://www.prebena.de/en/cordless-air-technology

I've held one and have to say it is rather heavy. And bulky. I have a Bosch nailer and though those have a lot of plastic, I bet these Prebena things are heavy by anyone's standard. Other con, they offer a systainer with refills but the unit itself comes in an ordinary plastic case, good luck connecting the two. Other than that I quite like the idea, plus they claim about 700 shots with a fresh unit, no loss from connecting to a hose so that's good.

Then there is this Sysmaster from Schneider from Germany:

http://www.schneider-airsystems.de/Produkte/Seiten/Produktvergleich.aspx?foc=SD-SysMaster_mobil_9273

I don't know about you guys but does that website design look familiar?? Hmmm.... Anyway, nice stuff from the looks of it, looking forward to checking those in a shop.

Cheers, Bob.

 

[woodguy7]

Must be a sister site, they even have the 1+2 warranty.

 

[jmbfestool]

Schneider  is part of the TTS family  Festool, Protool....

The Prebena  I was looking at buying it  I had the Prebena rep come round my house  showed me some of the stuff  then he told me they refill it for me as you need a special compressor  to fill them  and said it was like £6 per fill not sure how many or what cant remember but it kinda put me off!  Cus gotta buy nails then pay to get the cans filled.  I got a dewalt all I pay is for the nails nothing more so decided not to go for it.

Maybe in the future if im feeling rich  ill buy the system  including the compressor  so I can fill it up my self!  but the compressor is a couple grand so...!    I could try my local paint ball place and see how much they would charge to fill the cans.  Ill wait till my dewalt fails on me and ill go look into more again.

JMB

 

[Bob Gerritsen]

Schneider  is part of the TTS family  Festool, Protool....

The Prebena  I was looking at buying it  I had the Prebena rep come round my house  showed me some of the stuff  then he told me they refill it for me as you need a special compressor  to fill them  and said it was like £6 per fill not sure how many or what cant remember but it kinda put me off!   Cus gotta buy nails then pay to get the cans filled.   I got a dewalt all I pay is for the nails nothing more so decided not to go for it.

Maybe in the future if im feeling rich  ill buy the system  including the compressor  so I can fill it up my self!  but the compressor is a couple grand so...!     I could try my local paint ball place and see how much they would charge to fill the cans.   Ill wait till my dewalt fails on me and ill go look into more again.

JMB

For me it would be the unit for 'the odd couple nails', to not bother getting the compressor out for just a couple shots. Then 6 quid is peanuts on 700 nails, right? I would do forever with one filling like that. Besides, I really think it is far too heavy to use a long time, rather deal with a curly hose then and not get a numb arm.

Who else in the TTS family anyway?

Bob.

 

[jmbfestool]

Schneider  is part of the TTS family  Festool, Protool....

The Prebena  I was looking at buying it  I had the Prebena rep come round my house  showed me some of the stuff  then he told me they refill it for me as you need a special compressor  to fill them  and said it was like £6 per fill not sure how many or what cant remember but it kinda put me off!   Cus gotta buy nails then pay to get the cans filled.   I got a dewalt all I pay is for the nails nothing more so decided not to go for it.

Maybe in the future if im feeling rich  ill buy the system  including the compressor  so I can fill it up my self!  but the compressor is a couple grand so...!     I could try my local paint ball place and see how much they would charge to fill the cans.   Ill wait till my dewalt fails on me and ill go look into more again.

JMB

For me it would be the unit for 'the odd couple nails', to not bother getting the compressor out for just a couple shots. Then 6 quid is peanuts on 700 nails, right? I would do forever with one filling like that. Besides, I really think it is far too heavy to use a long time, rather deal with a curly hose then and not get a numb arm.

Who else in the TTS family anyway?

Bob.

Here is the Family website
http://www.tooltechnicsystems.com

I think one gas can shoot a few thousand  depends which gun your on about first or second?!

He did say £12 at first but when I saw my face I think he thought okay to much lol and dropped to £6 or something like that.

I got emails of him was over a year ago I think so wud take me some time to find thats if I didnt delete them.

If you have a local paint ball company they can fill them up for you any way cus they use high pressure compressors.

JMB

 

[galwaydude18@gmail.com]

Jmb do you have the straight or angled dewalt pinner? I have the straight one. It has taken some abuse over the years. Has fallen off ladders been kicked around the place and still works! I need to get it serviced tho as it misfires the odd time lately.

 

[Bob Gerritsen]

Schneider  is part of the TTS family  Festool, Protool....

The Prebena  I was looking at buying it  I had the Prebena rep come round my house  showed me some of the stuff  then he told me they refill it for me as you need a special compressor  to fill them  and said it was like £6 per fill not sure how many or what cant remember but it kinda put me off!   Cus gotta buy nails then pay to get the cans filled.   I got a dewalt all I pay is for the nails nothing more so decided not to go for it.

Maybe in the future if im feeling rich  ill buy the system  including the compressor  so I can fill it up my self!  but the compressor is a couple grand so...!     I could try my local paint ball place and see how much they would charge to fill the cans.   Ill wait till my dewalt fails on me and ill go look into more again.

JMB

For me it would be the unit for 'the odd couple nails', to not bother getting the compressor out for just a couple shots. Then 6 quid is peanuts on 700 nails, right? I would do forever with one filling like that. Besides, I really think it is far too heavy to use a long time, rather deal with a curly hose then and not get a numb arm.

Who else in the TTS family anyway?

Bob.

Here is the Family website
http://www.tooltechnicsystems.com

I think one gas can shoot a few thousand  depends which gun your on about first or second?!

He did say £12 at first but when I saw my face I think he thought okay to much lol and dropped to £6 or something like that.

I got emails of him was over a year ago I think so wud take me some time to find thats if I didnt delete them.

If you have a local paint ball company they can fill them up for you any way cus they use high pressure compressors.

JMB

I took a Prebena product flyer that says 700 shots for the two most common machines, refill over here would be 13,40 in CHF. In any case, I'm passing on this one. I think.... Maybe....

 

[galwaydude18@gmail.com]

Jesus 700 pins and it needs refilling? You would be priced out the doors if you use that on site so.

 

[jmbfestool]

Schneider  is part of the TTS family  Festool, Protool....

The Prebena  I was looking at buying it  I had the Prebena rep come round my house  showed me some of the stuff  then he told me they refill it for me as you need a special compressor  to fill them  and said it was like £6 per fill not sure how many or what cant remember but it kinda put me off!   Cus gotta buy nails then pay to get the cans filled.   I got a dewalt all I pay is for the nails nothing more so decided not to go for it.

Maybe in the future if im feeling rich  ill buy the system  including the compressor  so I can fill it up my self!  but the compressor is a couple grand so...!     I could try my local paint ball place and see how much they would charge to fill the cans.   Ill wait till my dewalt fails on me and ill go look into more again.

JMB

For me it would be the unit for 'the odd couple nails', to not bother getting the compressor out for just a couple shots. Then 6 quid is peanuts on 700 nails, right? I would do forever with one filling like that. Besides, I really think it is far too heavy to use a long time, rather deal with a curly hose then and not get a numb arm.

Who else in the TTS family anyway?

Bob.

Here is the Family website
http://www.tooltechnicsystems.com

I think one gas can shoot a few thousand  depends which gun your on about first or second?!

He did say £12 at first but when I saw my face I think he thought okay to much lol and dropped to £6 or something like that.

I got emails of him was over a year ago I think so wud take me some time to find thats if I didnt delete them.

If you have a local paint ball company they can fill them up for you any way cus they use high pressure compressors.

JMB

I took a Prebena product flyer that says 700 shots for the two most common machines, refill over here would be 13,40 in CHF. In any case, I'm passing on this one. I think.... Maybe....

yeah I wasnt sure how many nails to be honest.   He was trying to sell me a pack where you get like 6 cans or something so it could be that why I was thinking it was a few thousand nails.   Cus he said u could send 4 cans of for refill or something so you get discount and you still have 2 or something while you wait for the other to come back etc.

Galwaydude18  

I got the angled Dewalt it has lasted me years not had any problems really.  Well ALOT less than paslode an I have used LOADS of Paslode second fix guns.  I always kept the brand new ones in my possession because I was the only person who would clean/service them when I was working for a company.   From Brand new some where miss firing after 2 weeks.   Never get a miss fire with Dewalt only jammed nails some times or a jammed piston.

But paslode u get jammed nails piston miss fire not working at all  on a regular basis and I have had this experience with over 12 paslode first fix guns with half being brand new or very new.

So dare I say it the dewalt is the better nail gun.  

I love and im sure some one is going to say oh my paslode works brilliant never have a problem (im on about second fix remember not first fix) well all I got to say to da is what ever!  No way!

JMB

 

[galwaydude18@gmail.com]

The dewalt is the best pinner out there. You pay extra for the gas for the paslode pinners and you don't need to with the dewalt. I'm glad to have the straight pinner as that means the pins are cheaper again as they are not angled. As you say the paslode needs to be treated like a baby and cleaned a lot! I have never had to clean my dewalt ever ever. So no time lost there either.

 

[Eli]

I still haven't taken the plunge for a gas gun. I've done plenty of jobs where someone insists I use their whizbang paslode and I end up taking the compressor and air guns out of the truck when no one can figure out what's wrong with that fantastic paslode gun. Had it happen to me @4 o'clock on a friday afternoon while I was putting down floor repairs in a kitchen, 3rd floor walkup, cab installers were due first thing monday 
They're awesome until they stop working. Still looking for the magic bullet solution.