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ejantny

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Hey everybody.

I'm the newbie. A bit about myself. I am, a disabled Vietnam Vet (agent orange) who has been unable to work now for three years.
I was a machinist/diesel mechanic by trade and woodworking was my love.

I recently moved to upstate NY from Westchester Co. I had a nicely laid out shop and gave all that up when I moved. Now I'm startig all over. I thought I was lost with a basement that has no outlet other than the stairs leading down. Then I discovered Festool, wow was I ever impressed.

I've got so far the MFT 1080, the larger dust collector, the 6" Rotex sander and the 2000 router is in the mail.

Back into woodworking.

Question, is the 32mm hole drilling accessory worth the 369.00

Happy to be part of this forum.

Ed
 
ejantny said:
Question, is the 32mm hole drilling accessory worth the 369.00

Yes and no. What you get for $369 is everything, including some 5mm bits and a 35mm bit. Now if you have a use for those bits, then its worth it. Personally, I don't make my 35mm holes with a router. I do them on my drill press. I also don't use 5mm bits either. All of my shelf pins are 1/4".

I bought this and this and a systainer. That made everything worth it for me since I didn't have to pay money for bits I'd never use.

As to using the tool, you'll be really glad you went with it. It does its job extremely well.
 
Hi, and welcome!

I have booth LR32 and the Lochness 32mm system. If you know you'll only do small holes for shelfing etc, you might find Lochness or similar to be a faster and more compact system. I bought the Lochness at first and liked it very much. But when I wanted to make bigger holes (20mm holes for MFT top), it didn't work since you make the hole rows through the jig, as opposed to at the side of the jig (LR32).

I ended up buying LR32 as well. The Rockler jigs are the same principle as Lochness, i.e. you drill through the jig.

I don't think the LR32 will dissapoint you. I love mine. I also bought mine without Systainer - much cheaper.

//Michael
 
Hey Ed
[welcome]  to FOG. And more importantly thank you for your service!!!

Im in a similar position as you, just starting to build my collection of festool.  I have looked long at the lr32 system but the price is quite high!   If im looking.at the same set as you the kit. 584100 is $480 and that comes with everything except the guide rail which is $120 for the 55" 496939. $600 is alot to drill holes.   The way i think i will go (but im a remodeling contractor who isnt doing cabinets or builtins all the time).  Is buy the  55" lr32 rail and just the lr32 adaptor plate. 494340 for $115.    The bits are up to you.  You may already have the bits you need or be able to buy another brand more reasonably priced.    Im not sold on the edge stops for $130    this would give me the same basic system for $235 + bits     hope this is helpful and good luck

John
 
I got the Kreg Shelf Pin Jig for under $50
I got it mainly for drilling holes in an already constructed set of shelves.
It can be used that way or in sides before assembly.
Tinker
 
Um, isn't this tread from February 2007?  [big grin]

I just ordered the LR32 system today with the 55" rail. I've got the addiction bad! I have to stop watching all these festool videos [eek]
 
2007?? No, that can't be correct as Ed calls himself a newbie. You can't go around and call yourself a newbie when you have been here for 6 years  [big grin]
 
FYI - yes this thread is old.  It popped onto the bottom of the home page because a spammer posted in this thread.

Peter
 
Peter Halle said:
FYI - yes this thread is old.  It popped onto the bottom of the home page because a spammer posted in this thread.

Peter

Time Vault Tuesday. No biggie, I was just checking out my new avatar. Thought this would be a good place.
 
Peter Halle said:
FYI - yes this thread is old.  It popped onto the bottom of the home page because a spammer posted in this thread.

Peter

Hey.  What do you mean by spammer?      I was wondering why he was saying that the lr32 set was $360 instead of$480.  Man 2007 prices kick ass!!!
 
NERemodeling said:
Peter Halle said:
FYI - yes this thread is old.  It popped onto the bottom of the home page because a spammer posted in this thread.

Peter

Hey.  What do you mean by spammer?       I was wondering why he was saying that the lr32 set was $360 instead of$480.  Man 2007 prices kick !!!

Well compare price six years from now to today's pricing and you'll be getting a great deal now. [tongue] [big grin]
 
Hey.  What do you mean by spammer?      I was wondering why he was saying that the lr32 set was $360 instead of$480.  Man 2007 prices kick !!!
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Well compare price six years from now to today's pricing and you'll be getting a great deal now. [tongue] [big grin]
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you do have a point!!  i guess that means i should run out and buy everything i might need 6 years from now, today ;D  ill have a hard time explaining that one to the wife
 
NERemodeling said:
you do have a point!!   i guess that means i should run out and buy everything i might need 6 years from now, today ;D   ill have a hard time explaining that one to the wife

I can tell you exactly what you're going to need, all of it.  So buy it all now. [big grin]  I invested heavily in Festool in 2007.  Prices on things like the boom arm were so much less back then.  Today that price is harder to swallow.  But, inflation in the next few years could make today's boom arm price seem like chump change.....
 
I fully agree with those who suggest buying now and making use of Festools, knowing they will cost much more before they are worn out.

Brice mentioned investing heavily in Festools in 2007.

In January 2006, I was starting to re-activate a custom cabinet business I had operated successfully from 1959 until my employees bought me out in 1992. I retained ownership of the building. Eventually the employee owners decided to retire although they also were successful.

So in 2006 I was legally free to return to the cabinet business and I was semi retired from the movie studio business. In the old days I only built custom cabinets wholesale for designers and installers who did not want to own shops. Once it became known I was even thinking about opening another cabinet business old clients urged me to go ahead rapidly.

The day I first saw the then new Eagle Tools of Los Angeles store, owned by an old pal Jesse Barragán, I did not know he was a Festool dealer. I did know he stocked a wide selection of expensive and very good fixed tools for the furniture makers. I had the money to buy a large enough sliding table saw to break-down 4x10' sheets of plywood, a dust collection system for the slider saw and a bunch of clamps, a sliding compound miter saw and some sanders.

By coincidence the previous Saturday morning I had seen a subcontractor on This Old House using a dark blue and green plunge saw on a track to cut hardwood flooring along a wall. The brand was not mentioned. Well, before I got as far as the slider saw display, Jesse showed me a Festool TS55, which was fairly new in the USA. Jesse knew I had not then made a deal on shop space. My Pasadena shop building was leased until 2011.

Jesse asked me to try the TS55, with a CT22 dust extractor and a 3000mm guide rail. He explained that doing so would save me so much space I could work out of my condo until I could justify buying another building. Meanwhile when I needed a lot of space, table saws, jointers and thickness planers, I could rent space in shops of mutual friends who needed some extra cash.

That day I had budgeted over $30,000 for the slider saw, miter saw and the dust collection. In the blink of an eye I saved the cost of a building and I bought what I needed to start using Festools for a couple of thousand dollars. Before 2006 was ended I probably had spent darn close to the $39k on Festool sanders and routers, plus a million clamps. In 2007 I continued investing in Festools because they made me so much money and turned tasks I used to dread into jobs I enjoyed. Even in my younger days I never cared for lifting sheet goods onto a table saw and pushing the sheet back and forth through the saw.

What made sense to me was having a long rail and a shorter rail. So I would lift a sheet onto a sacrificial sheet, clamp a long rail to clean up a reference edge and walk along with the saw, dragging the green hose which collected so much dust.

It is no secret that by late 2009 I had made so much money using all my Festools I felt the time had come to find a huge industrial building while real estate prices were at a low point. I bought a lot of impressive fixed machine, but I also kept using Festools where they made good sense. I also kept buying additional Festools.

Talk about a return on investment (ROI)? Every one of my 2006 guide rails are still in frequent use. My original TS55 I do keep in reserve as the exemplar for the adjustment of toe-in and fit to the rails of every other Festool plunge saw in my shop. Still that original TS55 functions as if brand new and has never needed factory service. I own about 12 CT22s because I believe in only stocking one kind of bag. Honestly I am not sure, without checking the serial numbers, which is my original. I can say none of my Festool dust extractors has ever needed more than common sense care. The same is true of the Festool routers and sanders.

For insurance purposes this February I priced out the replacement cost of all my Festools at the 1 March 2013 prices. I was surprised that the price increases were enough I had depreciated for tax purposes and made good money using tools that could be sold at such high prices my actual cost of owner ship was virtually nothing.

It is because of such reliable tools that last forever that Festool enjoys its reputation and why guys like me, with a PhD in economics keep spending my money of Festools.
 
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