Oak Gates with the Domino XL

Guy Ashley

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A recent commission is for two sets of Oak Gates, one pair for the pedestrian access and the other for the vehicle access.

These are the pedestrian gates, each leaf is 1.3m high and 1.1m wide, the stock is 70mm thick and they are heavy!

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The main reason for posting this thread is to show the full versatility of the Domino XL. The XL comes with tenons of varying length and diameter which can be used on numerous projects but as discussed before I would not use beech domino's for exterior joinery.

For gates this size traditionally they have through tenons and so I made up oak tenons up to 100mm in width and up to 200mm in length

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Then I plunged the full 70mm into the rails to the width necessary dependant on whether bottom, mid or top rail

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These are then glued in with liberal amounts of Cascamite

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Then the stiles are mortised with the XL. The stiles on this gate are 120mm and 100mm wide but all you have to do is plunge the full 70mm, flip the stock over and plunge in from the other side

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A dry fit check to ensure all is square and you can see how clean the joints are

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and after glue up and clean up the joints look pretty good

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So IMHO this Domino is a real game changer for joinery, with a little imagination it can be used for bigger projects than perhaps originally intended.

So you guys over the pond start saving your $$, it is I believe one of the best Festool purchases for efficiency, effectiveness and time saving and therefore making your business work.

 
 
is the greatest thorns I have ever seen in my life! [smile]
good job!
 
Lovely work as usual Guy,

But surly i would have thought , a traditionalist such as your good self would have gone down the traditional  mortice and tennon route.

I am sure I can recall, your very vocal horror at the meer suggestion that domino joinery played any part in High quality joinery [poke].

I wonder if you have been influenced by that obscure pamphlet " Take 5 bits of soft wood" [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

I knew you were up to something with the XL as a few weeks ago, I could have sworn, i could hear you being dragged into the 21st century , even from  up here. [jawdrop] Must be a lot of dragging going on as I was sure I could hear similar noises from the very far north.

John [bite tongue] [bite tongue]

[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
 
John, somehow I knew that was coming!!! [embarassed] [embarassed]

Yes, a conversion on the road to Damascus, just goes to show we never stop learning in this game, and yes I will admit you were right!!!

As for Alan, he has the XL and has used it I believe on some internal oak doors, so he is 60% converted I think!

 
Guy

I could not help myself [big grin] [big grin].

See even old and not too old dogs like us can learn new tricks [thumbs up]

Never the less, top work on the gates, yet another master class by your good self.

Very quiet on the Northern Front [popcorn] [popcorn].

Don't worry we will hear the rustling of the Tartan Skirt, as a certain individual rushes in after playing with the new toy. Wonder if he has found out how to tighten every thing up yet? [poke]

John
 
I might have guessed I would have gotten dragged into this one !  Spoiling for a fight eh John [poke]

I seem to remember you gave Guy & myself a master class on door joinery with the Domino 500 !!!!!! Care to share those pics with the FOG  ;). Yes, I have used the XL on internal doors with the standard Dominoes & I have to say how surprised I was with the strength.  I'm afraid I am still a traditionalist when it comes to exterior doors but after looking at Guys home made Oak Jobie's I can certainly see the merits in them.

Oh, gates look stunning as always Guy.
 
Nice work on the gates.

But where is the expansion room for those vertical panel/slats?
 
Guy Ashley said:
A recent commission is for two sets of Oak Gates, one pair for the pedestrian access and the other for the vehicle access.

Beautiful gates Guy. Those tenons  are monstrosities.
What is the finish? Varnish?
Tim
 
fritter63 said:
Nice work on the gates.

But where is the expansion room for those vertical panel/slats?

It is hard to see on the pic but when the gates were assembled and pinned to the brace at the back there is a 2.5mm between each tounge and groove board. I always use spacers between T & G boards otherwise when they expand they could blow the stiles.

Tim Raleigh said:
Guy Ashley said:
A recent commission is for two sets of Oak Gates, one pair for the pedestrian access and the other for the vehicle access.

Beautiful gates Guy. Those tenons  are monstrosities.
What is the finish? Varnish?
Tim

Tim I always use Osmo Oil on exterior oak, here is a link to Canadian stockist

http://www.raincoastalternatives.com/

 
Really nice gates - how long would you expect them to last? (normal use) 20 years?
 
Kev said:
Really nice gates - how long would you expect them to last? (normal use) 20 years?

Or twenty minutes if you can lift them off the hinges [scared]
 
Kev

The oak gates at Peterborough Cathedral have been there since the 16th Century so I kinda hope they will last a bit longer than 20 years!!

Like all exterior oak joinery as long as they are regularly maintained then they could last a very very long time.  
 
Festoolfootstool said:
Kev said:
Really nice gates - how long would you expect them to last? (normal use) 20 years?

Or twenty minutes if you can lift them off the hinges [scared]

:o :o [laughing] [laughing]

These maybe but wait till you see the vehicle access gates each leaf is going to be 2m x 1.5m, dont know how we are going to get them on the hinges!! [scared] [scared]
 
Guy Ashley said:
These maybe but wait till you see the vehicle access gates each leaf is going to be 2m x 1.5m, dont know how we are going to get them on the hinges!! [scared] [scared]

what will you do for gate posts to prevent sagging? a lot of lever force on that! Is the ground flat enough for a jockey wheel or are you going to make the gate post as an oak clad steel I-Beam with 1.5m above ground... and 3 below!  ;D
 
mattfc said:
Guy Ashley said:
These maybe but wait till you see the vehicle access gates each leaf is going to be 2m x 1.5m, dont know how we are going to get them on the hinges!! [scared] [scared]

what will you do for gate posts to prevent sagging? a lot of lever force on that! Is the ground flat enough for a jockey wheel or are you going to make the gate post as an oak clad steel I-Beam with 1.5m above ground... and 3 below!  ;D

These gates are being made for the home of a builder I do a lot of joinery for. The piers are 18" x 18" sandstone clad with concrete infil There is a steel runs down the inside and the hinge bars are welded onto that (sort of T shape) but even so the jockey wheel set is on order!! [big grin] [big grin]
 
Awesome!  I think Festool has just sold another Domino XL, that is if they ever get the darned thing to the U.S.
Thanks for sharing.
 
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