OF2200 Question - why get the accessory set ?

[jeh]

When the 2200 came out and questions were asked about 1.  It being available without a Systainer, and 2. Not having a plug-it cord, the answer was that Festool thought that it would be mainly used in a shop situation and would be unlikely to be put away.  Thus the permanent cord and just a cardboard box if desired (the setup with a Systainer was also available.)

It came out in the 2008-2009 time period I believe.  Plug-it cords were already in use then.

Peter

My 2200 came in a Sustainer made for it. Not quite sure what the talk is a obout it not having a sustainer. The lack of a plug-it cord is a non-issue. I have never understood why people get worked up about plug-it. Festool is the only company I know of that using plug-it and it's good, but nothing that stopped me from buying other company's tools.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Mine also came in a systainer as they all do now I believe, it's worth mentioning though that the power cable is far thicker than the plug-it cables, so maybe it's a combination of factors and/or a physical size or strain limitation of a plug-it cable?

 

[Cheese]

All this 2200 chatter got me curious, so this is very interesting.

An OF 2000 router in 2007 in a cardboard box was $430.

An OF 2200 router in 2008 in a Systainer cost $800.

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[squall_line]

I saw an OF 2000 E come up on eBay recently and did some research to see if it was worth getting for my CMS.

The posts I found here on the FOG (through a Google search) kept me from bothering to bid.

The 2000e and the 2200 are significantly different from each other in features, especially dust collection and through-table adjustment.

The 2000e on clearance was cheaper than both the 1010 and 1400 at the time.  [blink]

The 2000e on Recon was only 200 bucks.  [eek]

The 2000e I found on eBay was listed apparently using the 2200 as a price reference, even though it was never priced in the same category as the 2200.

 

[rvieceli]

I’ve got an OF2000. I believe it was made by Mafell for Festool based (I believe) on the old tried and true ELU design. It is a beast but not as refined as the 2200.  [tongue]

As I recall I picked it up from the recon sale for $200 in its custom cardboard box.  [tongue]

Ron

 

[Michael Kellough]

It might have come from Holzer. The MFK 700 is nearly identical to the old Holzer edge trimmer. I think I read somewhere that Holzer made routers for both Festool and Mafell. When Festool bought the Holzer portable power tool factory around 2001 they inherited the belt sanders and who knows what else. Maybe the OF 2000 as well?

 

[mino]

FWIW I had the 2200 and accessory kit and sold it. It didn't do anything for me that the 1400 couldn't. I think I fell into the trap of "It's Festool so I should probably own it" and also the other trap of "It has superb power and dust collection." While the first trap I'll leave to the collectors the second one just didn't fit for me. I have never found a situation where I thought I needed more power out of my 1400. And I had it in the CMS table for a while doing double duty as my router table motor.

Matt

IMO your "problem" here was being US-based /limited 8mm cutter availability/ and having the OF1400 which is kinda "duplicit" with the OF2200.

The ideal hobbyist combo - to me - is OF1010 + OF2200 for those 10% tasks where the OF1010 does not cut it.

 

[kifi]

Not really specific to the OF2200 , but is an accessory to it and the OF1010 / 1400 but has anyone bought the expensive plexiglass OF-FH ? Useful for routing on edge of doors for mortise locks and hinges but cost a lot for what it is

 

[squall_line]

Not really specific to the OF2200 , but is an accessory to it and the OF1010 / 1400 but has anyone bought the expensive plexiglass OF-FH ? Useful for routing on edge of doors for mortise locks and hinges but cost a lot for what it is

There are entire threads dedicated to that particular accessory.  I only have one because I found it listed for cheap and it's compatible with all three plunge router models so I figured why not.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Most of the talk about that has been about making one rather than buying it.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Why would any sane person try and use a huge OF2200 to rout 75mm x 25mm x 3mm deep hinge slots along the edge of a door which might be only 35mm wide? It’s the very definition of a disaster waiting to happen. A quarter-inch palm router with a 19mm hinge cutter, and a parallel fence is the correct combination. The slot for the mortise lock gets cut with a spade bit and a sharp chisel.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Why would any sane person try and use a huge OF2200 to rout 75mm x 25mm x 3mm deep hinge slots along the edge of a door which might be only 35mm wide? It’s the very definition of a disaster waiting to happen. A quarter-inch palm router with a 19mm hinge cutter, and a parallel fence is the correct combination. The slot for the mortise lock gets cut with a spade bit and a sharp chisel.

Unless you have a grooving jig that makes routing mortise lock slots ridiculously easy and extremely accurate with the extended reach of the OF2200!

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Why would any sane person try and use a huge OF2200 to rout 75mm x 25mm x 3mm deep hinge slots along the edge of a door which might be only 35mm wide? It’s the very definition of a disaster waiting to happen. A quarter-inch palm router with a 19mm hinge cutter, and a parallel fence is the correct combination. The slot for the mortise lock gets cut with a spade bit and a sharp chisel.

Unless you have a grooving jig that makes routing mortise lock slots ridiculously easy and extremely accurate with the extended reach of the OF2200!

A lovely gadget for sure - and yours for only £265 RRP in the UK. But the job’s only half done. It won’t help you to rout the lockbox recess in the door frame - or the rebate for the lockbox faceplate - or the deeper chamfered recess for the angled striker plate ……

 

[luvmytoolz]

Why would any sane person try and use a huge OF2200 to rout 75mm x 25mm x 3mm deep hinge slots along the edge of a door which might be only 35mm wide? It’s the very definition of a disaster waiting to happen. A quarter-inch palm router with a 19mm hinge cutter, and a parallel fence is the correct combination. The slot for the mortise lock gets cut with a spade bit and a sharp chisel.

Unless you have a grooving jig that makes routing mortise lock slots ridiculously easy and extremely accurate with the extended reach of the OF2200!

A lovely gadget for sure - and yours for only £265 RRP in the UK. But the job’s only half done. It won’t help you to rout the lockbox recess in the door frame - or the rebate for the lockbox faceplate - or the deeper chamfered recess for the angled striker plate ……

Unless you have the lock fitting jigs (some of which are in attached pic)! ;-)

I also made the groove jig myself, it probably cost me around a 1/3rd of the Festool one as I had to use easily available but expensive materials and parts. I ended up selling it shortly after finishing it as I'm now working on a ver 2.0 model. Probably hard to tel from the pic but for better or worse it's all 20mm thick perspex, not 1/2" as is Festool's one.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] You made that grooving jig yourself ??  [eek] That’s very, very impressive !!

 

[Coen]

It appears to mostly contain copy rings.

Huh no? There are four of them, yes, but in value it's only a tiny part. The bases and the parallel guide are most of it's value. Especially the base that is fatter by 5mm for half it's width is usefull when using the 2200 with the guide rail.

 

[Coen]

Why would any sane person try and use a huge OF2200 to rout 75mm x 25mm x 3mm deep hinge slots along the edge of a door which might be only 35mm wide? It’s the very definition of a disaster waiting to happen. A quarter-inch palm router with a 19mm hinge cutter, and a parallel fence is the correct combination. The slot for the mortise lock gets cut with a spade bit and a sharp chisel.

Unless you have a grooving jig that makes routing mortise lock slots ridiculously easy and extremely accurate with the extended reach of the OF2200!

A lovely gadget for sure - and yours for only £265 RRP in the UK. But the job’s only half done. It won’t help you to rout the lockbox recess in the door frame - or the rebate for the lockbox faceplate - or the deeper chamfered recess for the angled striker plate ……

There is a lot of work in just replacing doors while keeping the frame intact. Lots of 40mm wooden doors that have rotten from all the condensation running down from the single-pane glazing need replacing with 54mm (insulated) doors with dual pane glazing. Also de-laminating insulating doors from the early 2000s are due replacing. Especially the dark colored onces facing south. The former probably need upgraded lock too, the former can be fitted with the same system requiring no adjustments in the frame.

But I didn't notice it was a DIY jig, I thought it was the Festool one too.

 

[luvmytoolz]

[member=75933]luvmytoolz[/member] You made that grooving jig yourself ??  [eek] That’s very, very impressive !!

Thanks! It worked a treat, but having said that the price Festool wants for theirs is a bit over the top, even for Festool!

 

[Coen]

Yeah the 2200 replaced the 2000 and was Festool's newest plunge router untill the 1010 R came out, Plug-It had been around since forever by then.

But basicly everything above 1600W doesn't have Plug-It.

Some old designs pre Plug-It got updated (like the EHL-65, mine didn't have Plug-It when I bought ca. 2009), some (RAS?) didn't.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I sure wish the RAS had it, but I'm very glad to have gotten one before they were discontinued. That wasn't even on the horizon at the time, though. I actually bought it as a replacement for the Porter-Cable 371 belt sander, when it was discontinued.
I really don't understand that one either. Seemed like everyone, who ever tried one, loved it. They were somewhat difficult to get belts for. Kind of a chicken vs. egg thing. People wouldn't buy them becaause of the belts, yet none of the aftermarket companies made belts, because there weren't enough of them sold? Self-inflicted problems.
I don't have a clue what to do if the RAS ever quits on me?