Oneida V System 3000 vs Clearvue Cyclone

[BleedBlue]

Hello There,

I wanted to see if any of y'all have had experiences with these dust collectors.  I am somewhat torn between which option to go.  Clearvue seems like a more powerful system at a better price but my concern how loud these machines can get.  I have never had a truly powerful dust collector so it would be great to get your thoughts.

Thank you again!

 

[Alanbach]

I know little to nothing about Clearvue but I have owned an Oneida Cyclone for twenty years. My experiences with them over the years has been nothing short of exemplary. This regards the quality of the equipment, tech support of the equipment and any needed repairs, sales and service of ductwork and other accessories as well as help with two major and two minor shop redesigns along the way. Anything that I have thrown at them they have handled really well! Great company!

 

[Rob Z]

Hello BB

I had a ClearVue in our last house but sold it once we moved to a smaller house (and with a smaller space for my shop).  I never measured the sound level with the CV but it was louder than I wanted to hear without hearing protection.  I just looked at Oneida's specs for the V3000 and their rating of 74 dbs at 10' makes me think it might be quieter than the CV. With that said, because of damage to my hearing I am unable to use any power equipment with out hearing protection, so all of these things sound loud to me.  [scared]

The CV is a fine unit and if you  choose it you will be happy I am sure.  Unless CV has changed things, they ship the components and there is a decent amount of assembly required to get the unit up and running.

I am on my second Oneida mini-gorilla (sold the first one when we moved) and also I have the Dust Cobra.  Same comments as Alan: I have only good things to say about the three Oneida products I have bought.

 

[jaguar36]

I think you're comparing a bit of apples to oranges here.  The Clearvue has a 5hp motor vs the 3hp on the Oneida, and a substantially larger filter, so its going to be pulling alot more air.  More air is certainly going to make it louder.  I built a double wall closet to house mine in and that makes it pretty quiet. 

The Clearvue is a bit more DIY, and it has a bit of a made in someones garage feel to it, but mine went together easily enough and has been running for years now with no issue.  I also really like being able to see through the cyclone.  I've accidentally sucked up a large piece before that got stuck in the cyclone.

 

[BleedBlue]

Thanks everyone...i really appreciate your insights.  I really don't think I can go wrong with either option.  For those Oneida owners, did you ever feel like it did not have enough suction power to meet your tool needs?  For me, this dust collector right now will only be for my Sawstop table saw, miter saw, and eventually a Hammer A3-41 jointer/planer. 

 

[cpw]

I have a V-3000, I use it on a Sawstop and Minimax FS41, which should be fairly equivalent to the Hammer you are thinking about.

I never have problems pulling the chips from the planer, as long as I don't let the drum fill up without noticing.  The Sawstop is fine with dust collection when the dust collection guard is on and down covering the blade, but there is still plenty of dust on the tabletop when that is not possible, for example if I am just kissing the edge of a board or using a cross cut sled that the guard interferes with.  I don't think that more suction would solve it.

 

[Rob Z]

For those Oneida owners, did you ever feel like it did not have enough suction power to meet your tool needs? 

BB,  I haven't felt that the Mini-Gorilla was lacking but I only use it for one tool and only with the 10' x 5" factory hose (IOW, no installed runs of rigid ductwork).  I think Oneida even advertises the machine this way:  good performance with the 10' of hose, and it isn't suitable for longer runs of ductwork.  And it is only a 1.5 HP motor.

I'm sure the 3 hp on the Oneida you're considering won't be lacking for suction.

And the 5hp of the CV is  [eek] plenty.

 

[Michael Kellough]

I have a V-3000, I use it on a Sawstop and Minimax FS41, which should be fairly equivalent to the Hammer you are thinking about.

I never have problems pulling the chips from the planer, as long as I don't let the drum fill up without noticing.  The Sawstop is fine with dust collection when the dust collection guard is on and down covering the blade, but there is still plenty of dust on the tabletop when that is not possible, for example if I am just kissing the edge of a board or using a cross cut sled that the guard interferes with.  I don't think that more suction would solve it.

Make an auxiliary fence to park alongside the outboard side of the blade. Attach it to the table with magnets. MagSwitch would be best.

Makes a huge difference when trimming an edge. Similar to covering the blade when trimming with a portable circular and cutting on a sacrificial surface to keep the dust extraction vacuum concentrated on the blade.

 

[BleedBlue]

Thanks for all the valuable insights everyone! 

 

[blaszcsj]

Thanks for all the valuable insights everyone!

[member=73647]BleedBlue[/member]  Im running a v3000 with a hammer k3 and a331 at 25-30 ft and no issues. Bought the v3000 due to sound level.

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[jonathan-m]

StanB, what size is your shop?

 

[blaszcsj]

StanB, what size is your shop?

25ftx30ft

 

[SandSquid]

StanB,

Your shop looks great!
Just came across this older post while researching options for my new 28x34 shop that will be finished very similarly to yours.
I will be installing the V-3000 and was curious about the distance between the wall behind your collector and the first 45 elbow by the window? I'm assuming that's a 3' straight pipe section coming off the collector, right? Could you also tell me what the overhead clearance is above the motor?

Anything about your installation that you would do differently after having a few years experience with it?
Thanks!

 

[Bugsysiegals]

I was allured by the see-through ClearVue but since I put mine in a small corner closet to deaden the sound it meant there was really no point of see-through.  I ended up buying the Oneida V-3000 in Oct 2015 for $1,486 from Menards. 

I can hardly believe it's more than double the price in just 7 years ... I save a ton for retirement but at this rate, I won't get to ...  [unsure]

 

[Mike Goetzke]

I've had a ClearVue in my garage shop for probably 20 years. I have a 2-1/2 car garage and tucked it by the overhead door between the door rail and the wall. I packed mineral wool insulation around it and it is pretty quiet. Good luck with your choice.

Mike