Oscillating spindle / bobbin sanders - what have you chosen?

Kev

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I've recently been considering the Festool CMS sanding module, but it's limited scope v's cost makes me unconvinced. For similar money I could get a top of the line oscillating spindle sander (yes - they're completely different things, I know ... but I got looking at sanding machines of different types and developed a curiosity).

There seems to be a very wide spectrum of machines in the OSS space. Are the free standing machines 5x better than some of the bench machines? The Jet JOVS-10 has got my interest ... LEDA, LAGUNA and Swiss Tec also seem interesting.

... But the bench Jet is quite cheap (available in Oz soon I'm told).

Does anyone have thoughts to share on this?
 
I have the JOVS-10. It is a great sander. Solid base, quite, and a nice array of spindles.
 
I want to buy the new Jet JOSS-S...

but in the mean time, Peter Parfitt has the JBOS-5, and has a nice video about it



Here is what I want to buy!
 
I have the old Porter Cable 121 Handheld Oscillating Sander that I can either take to the material, or place in my Woodpecker's mounting plate -- swap out with the router & lift. Probably both NAAITL (Not Available Again In This Lifetime)  [blink]  But, I wouldn't mind seeing Festool make their own version that, like the PC, could both fit into, say, the CMS AND be used separately, hand-held on top of your workpiece.

 
Corwin said:
I have the old Porter Cable 121 Handheld Oscillating Sander that I can either take to the material, or place in my Woodpecker's mounting plate -- swap out with the router & lift. Probably both NAAITL (Not Available Again In This Lifetime)  [blink]  But, I wouldn't mind seeing Festool make their own version that, like the PC, could both fit into, say, the CMS AND be used separately, hand-held on top of your workpiece.

The CMS BS 120 http://www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/570244 is actually pretty impressive. The problem as I see it is that you really want these things out and ready to use all the time and that means a dedicated CMS GE if you go with the CMS BS120 module ($2.5K in Oz) for similar money you get some pretty impressive full size gear ...

... for example these two plus some change !!

http://www.gregmach.com/product/laguna-oscillating-edge-sander/
http://www.gregmach.com/product/laguna-bench-type-oscillating-bobbin/

The CMS BS120 does have portability and compactness in it's favour.

 
[member=18233]jbasen[/member] Do you have this machine?  I've thought of it as an option for myself, because I don't have a lot of room in my shop -- even getting the JBOS-5 might be pushing it.  It got top marks in a recent (Fine Woodworking I think?) review of benchtop spindle sanders, and is the only benchtop model I think that has the edge sanding option.

jbasen said:
I'm not sure if this is available outside the US but if you want a great sander on the cheap check out the Ridgid Oscillating Belt/Spindle Sander.

https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/oscillating-edge-belt-spindle-sander
 
+1 on the Ridgid.  Having the belt sander is a huge plus.  I rarely use the spindles.  It's short money and has a small foot print as well.  PWW or FWW did a review on spindle sanders recently.  The Ridgid won best value and best overall.
I hook my CT. 26 up to it.  Dust collection is excellent. 
 
Edward A Reno III said:
[member=18233]jbasen[/member] Do you have this machine?  I've thought of it as an option for myself, because I don't have a lot of room in my shop -- even getting the JBOS-5 might be pushing it.  It got top marks in a recent (Fine Woodworking I think?) review of benchtop spindle sanders, and is the only benchtop model I think that has the edge sanding option.

jbasen said:
I'm not sure if this is available outside the US but if you want a great sander on the cheap check out the Ridgid Oscillating Belt/Spindle Sander.

https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/oscillating-edge-belt-spindle-sander

Yes I have the Ridgid.  I've been using it for years.  While I'm only a hobbyist so it doesn't get the constant abuse that a pro might put the sander through I think it is a really good machine.

I also rarely use the spindles but use the belt sanding option all the time.  The machine is light enough that you could transport it to a job site.  On the negative side the machine is mostly plastic except for the table that you rest your work piece on that also folds down to cover up where the accessories are stored.  this is how they keep the weight and cost down.  Also, the cover over the accessories area isn't going to keep you from losing some of the smaller pieces if the machine is turned upside down during transport.  I know this because the moving van that delivered all our belongings to our current house did this and I had to replace some smaller parts that were lost

Overall it is a real bargain and, for me, despite the plastic construction has held up very well.
 
I had looked at the rigid before... for those who have it, do you ever tilt the table?  I assume most wouldn't but am curious.

Cheers.  Bryan.
 
Many thanks to copcarcollector for posting the link to my Jet JBOS 5 video.

I will be using it in earnest in the early part of 2016 and I have no doubt that it will do a great job. I will try and ensure that I show it in action in whatever project construction video that gets produced at that time.

Peter
 
bkharman said:
I had looked at the rigid before... for those who have it, do you ever tilt the table?  I assume most wouldn't but am curious.

Cheers.  Bryan.

I have used the tilting feature of the table, but only on very rare occurrences.  I have found it convenient to put a cam-fer on the end of a through tenon.  Using the sander works better than trying to do it with a block plane or cutting it with a saw as the end grain of the tenon isn't at all supported.  Using the sander minimizes the risk for tear out.
 
I have the JET JBOS 5  ossicilating  spindle sander.
Had to modify  it a little to improve  the dust  collection  which was  less than satisfactory. But other than that I'm very happy with  the machine.
Have images  on here  on  the dust  collection  modifications.
 
I have the Triton:

http://amzn.to/1Lw4EhN

Can't really fault it - the table doesn't tilt but have never really had a need for that. Really good dust extraction - which fits the Festool vacs natively :). Enough power to not get bogged down and the best assortment of drum sizes - all the way up to 3". Good review on FWW too.

 
Iceclimber said:
Its not $2500 but its what im saving my pennies for..

Maybe you will like it also?

http://www.felderusa.com/us-us/products/edge-sanders/edge-sander-with-veneersanding-device-fs-900-kf.html

[member=41244]Iceclimber[/member]

I'm going to have a hard self justification going Felder over Hammer when I finally pull the trigger on bandsaw and thicknesser - let alone sanders! [sad]

I'm actually surprised that Felder don't have an offering in the oscillating spindle sander space .. particularly when the likes of Laguna, etc do.

I'm certainly not a fan of adapting a bandsaw into a sander [huh] does anyone really do that?

There's some locally branded Asian imports here too - need to look into them, but I generally not inclined.

 
I hear you on the Hammer vrs Felder thing. It does work out to be like twice the price.

I feel like a idiot. After dropping that link i went and looked at what Laguna has to offer. BLAM there it was a machine much like the Felder i linked to for 5K instead of 11K.

At the moment i need a mortiser. I am having a real hard time pulling the trigger on the Powermatic free standing machine over the Felder slot mortiser.  Again the difference in price is $1400 for the Powermtic vrs 4K to start for the Felder.

I really want the Felder but will purchase the Powermatic as they both cut a mortise.

That laguna sander looks pretty nice. The smaller black one you linked to. The festool thing is cool but a toy by comparison to a real machine. I can see the festool product be handy on a job sight as most of their tools are intended. But in a shop i would go with that laguna or some of Warners suggestions.
 
WarnerConstCo. said:
State, Kindt, Master, Oliver, Wadkin, Robinson.

[member=3891]WarnerConstCo.[/member]

Alas we see few of the serious big iron versions down under ... Typically Euro and Asian made [sad]

 
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