Parallel guide system

bigarm

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Eventually I would like to get a system to help me do repeated cuts.  There are several systems.  The Woodpecker system since it is a one time tool probably isn't available.  The Festool system is expensive.  Seneca Woodworking has a system that is cheaper.  What system do you use and recommend and why?  Also, I don't really have room for an MFT table unless I got rid of my table saw (Delta 36-725) which I don't think I want to since I use it for some things like ripping thin stuff, but like the idea of how the accessories are used for the guide rail for cutting.  Do they sell those parts separately and has anyone used them without the MFT table?
 
bigarm,

After reading all the posts I could find I settled on Seneca. I didn't think WP was that much better. It comes in sections which may be good or not, comes with a real nice box if you're into that. I really set out to get the Festool parallel bars but after reading the posts I thought there was far too many dissatisfied with the Festool.
Since I just got my parallel bars, I haven't used them yet but it looks to be fairly straight forward and they are well made.
MFT's are real nice I have two of them. But you certainly don't need one for the parallel bars to work for you. One of the advantages of the Parallel bars is not having to move the entire sheet. Lay the parallels on the stack of plywood put a few spacers under the first sheet and cut. I wouldn't pitch that table saw just yet, however.

Mark
 
As for cutting wide panels, your setup can be as simple as two lengths of T-track, each with its own stop. You first set one stop as needed (I'll get to that in a moment) then set the second one to the first. These can be placed with their stops up against the edge of your material that is opposite from you intended cutline -- the edge that you want to be parallel with. You can use a speed square to assure they sit square to that edge. Clamp in place. Now your Guide Rail can placed up against the far end of those T-tracks. And you're good to go. Only what about setting those stops...

The T-track stops would need to be set to a distance (the width of your Guide Rail) shorter than the desired width of your panel. Thus, the width of your Guide Rail needs to be established. That part is simple. I'll attempt to explain if need be, be rather than go on and on with explanation, let me offer a drawing that I've quickly made for you -- please excuse that I only did this quickly and from an existing file with other stuff... anyway:

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As I said, this was in haste. The Tracks are not right -- could sit on side or flipped over. And I didn't create stops. But with any luck at all you will see that it isn't all that complex.

This is how I first set up for wider parallel cuts when I first got my Festool saw. Only, I used Incra Incremental Tracks and Shop Stops from Woodpecker's rather than the T-track or Scale Track. That was over 9 years ago.  [blink]

Sorry for the poor explanation. I hope this is of help.  [unsure]
 

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bigarm said:
...  Also, I don't really have room for an MFT table unless I got rid of my table saw (Delta 36-725) which I don't think I want to since I use it for some things like ripping thin stuff, but like the idea of how the accessories are used for the guide rail for cutting.  Do they sell those parts separately and has anyone used them without the MFT table?

Festoon does sell MFT parts. You can purchase the aluminum side profiles (extrusions), tops, and all the hardware. Often you may find this, or older MFT1080/800 model hardware available in the classified section. However, you may want to look into other options before committing to purchasing those parts. They don't come cheap... And there are multiple other options available to you -- many can be found using this forum's (or Google) search function. Lots of people have made their own tables and have developed other solutions. You may wish to look before you leap.  [eek] [unsure] [big grin]
 
I have a number of ways of doing these a couple are:

Parf Dogs from Lee Valley (Peter Parfitt's design who is a FOG member) Parf Dogs from Lee Valey

Also google Parf Dogs on youtube and you should find some great videos from Peter on how to use them - can be a very inexpensive entry into the "MFT" type world.

I also have the full Rip Dogs line Rip Dogs Line  - the Rip Guides work well for me for Parallel cuts - Richard/RMW is a member here as well.

Good luck - there are ton's of resources here, the search feature is your friend.

Kevin
 
We have done a ton of jobs this year including building the wood shop and staining the house and deck.  In doing so, all of our trailers/vehicles/tractor were displaced while we were doing the jobs.  Finally got those done and the cargo trailer sealed and the bays cleaned out so we could get everything back under cover.  It looks like I will still have a place to cut plywood sheets under cover in one of the bays behind the wife's jeep.  So if I decide I want to get an MFT 3 or build something similar I will have a place to use it.  It will be a little nippy here in Montana in the winter, but at least under a roof so I can do it.  I will still find parallel guides helpful for cutting, though.  Keep the ideas coming.
 
By themselves the Festool parallel guides offer similar to Seneca, etc. Add the extensions and they become a little more feature rich.

Best to watch some YouTube demos and make your decision based on what will closest fit your workflow and needs. The cost of a tool is soon forgotten, but the mistakes you make with the wrong tool aren't.
 
I am going to throw my .02 in here...

I really like my Precision Dogs parallel guides (and just about anything I have bought from them).

Check them out, very high quality.

Cheers. Bryan.
 
bigarm said:
Eventually I would like to get a system to help me do repeated cuts.  There are several systems.  The Woodpecker system since it is a one time tool probably isn't available.  The Festool system is expensive.  Seneca Woodworking has a system that is cheaper.  What system do you use and recommend and why?  Also, I don't really have room for an MFT table unless I got rid of my table saw (Delta 36-725) which I don't think I want to since I use it for some things like ripping thin stuff, but like the idea of how the accessories are used for the guide rail for cutting.  Do they sell those parts separately and has anyone used them without the MFT table?
Why not have a go at making some guide stops to do repeat X-cuts/rips?  I made these on a desktop CNC but I'm sure I could have reached a similar end result with the table saw or router table?  And why not make your own version of thishttps://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=u287286a1-1509-47e7-aacc-df8b9c9b4aea to perhaps double as outfeed for your table saw?  I use mine for breaking down sheet material with TS55 and am really considering getting rid of the table saw to free up some space! :-\
 

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