Pat Warner sub-base & Festool routers?

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I just got a new "sub-base" for my Porter Cable 690 router because it's a bit tippy around corners.  Wondering if anybody has one for any of the Festool routers?  Seems like they would make almost any router better.

Here's a link with a picture and product info....
http://patwarner.com/offset_subbase.html

TP
 
I have been thinking about making some for my 1400 and 1010, but I still want to be be able to attach the Chip catcher and the Bushing ring adapter, so I may never do it. There is no way I'll part with the $100 Festool is getting for the Table Wideners.

  I wonder if we could send Pat a Festool base and he could make some????
 
Brice Burrell said:
I have been thinking about making some for my 1400 and 1010, but I still want to be be able to attach the Chip catcher and the Bushing ring adapter, so I may never do it. There is no way I'll part with the $100 Festool is getting for the Table Wideners.

  I wonder if we could send Pat a Festool base and he could make some????

Here I thought I was the only one that thought that price was absurd...
 
I have the extention table for my 1010 (cost $29) It slides on and off with rods like the edge guide and gives extra support just like Pat Warner's offset base.
Donald
 
Dongar said:
I have the extention table for my 1010 (cost $29) It slides on and off with rods like the edge guide and gives extra support just like Pat Warner's offset base.
Donald

  Holy crap, I don't know how I missed that, I'm going to have to pick one up. Thanks Donald.

Link Extention Table
 
I asked Pat a while ago if he would make bases for the OF 1400.  He told me the engineering and tooling cost was too high compared to demand.  That's why he stays with the most popular routers. 

So I went to Woodcraft and bought a "one size fits all" offset base like the one shown and redrilled 2 of the 3 holes to fit the 1400.  Works great.  Costs about $29 IIRC.

Dave
 
He told me the engineering and tooling cost was too high compared to demand.  That's why he stays with the most popular routers. 

Uh, yeah. It would take me about two hours to draw it and email it to my friend with a laser cutter. Countersink the holes, throw on a knob, DONE.

How many do ya'll want?
 
Hey Lasergecko,
If you are serious about making some, let us know a rough price.  I'm very interested!
 
LaserGecko said:
He told me the engineering and tooling cost was too high compared to demand.  That's why he stays with the most popular routers. 

Uh, yeah. It would take me about two hours to draw it and email it to my friend with a laser cutter. Countersink the holes, throw on a knob, DONE.

How many do ya'll want?
Jason,

If you're serious, price it and let me know.  I'm interested.

Regards,

Dan.
 
Dan Clark said:
LaserGecko said:
He told me the engineering and tooling cost was too high compared to demand.  That's why he stays with the most popular routers. 

Uh, yeah. It would take me about two hours to draw it and email it to my friend with a laser cutter. Countersink the holes, throw on a knob, DONE.

How many do ya'll want?
Jason,

If you're serious, price it and let me know.  I'm interested.

Regards,

Dan.

Me too.
 
Yup, I'm very serious. Actually, I have two friendly sources with cutters, one of whom works out of his house...and that's the kind of overhead I don't mind! I've never done anything in 1/2" thick acrylic, so I will check with both of them for pricing. It should be very doable for about $30, possibly even with your name engraved on it for that price.

That wouldn't do very much for the resale value, but it would be pretty cool!

A couple of quick questions, though.

First, what's the preferred distance from bit center to handle? It looks like about 5" or 6" in the PC base.

Second, guide bushing hole or 1 3/4" hole?

Of course, it wouldn't be much trouble to design a standard base, too.
 
LaserGecko said:
Yup, I'm very serious. Actually, I have two friendly sources with cutters, one of whom works out of his house...and that's the kind of overhead I don't mind! I've never done anything in 1/2" thick acrylic, so I will check with both of them for pricing. It should be very doable for about $30, possibly even with your name engraved on it for that price.
1/2" acrylic is not cheap, I don't know if it could be done for $30. I would not want to have my name on it , not for resale value but to keep the cost down.

First, what's the preferred distance from bit center to handle? It looks like about 5" or 6" in the PC base.

Second, guide bushing hole or 1 3/4" hole?

Of course, it wouldn't be much trouble to design a standard base, too.
I would like a recess so I could still use the chip catcher.
 
Jason, I'm interested too and would prefer the hole fit the PC bushings. Don't have a preference on the handle distance. Wouldn't 3/8" acrylic be plenty?
 
If 3/8" acrylic would work, then that would be great. The 1/2" idea came from Warner website since that is what he uses. The material and the cutting time would cost less with the 3/8", too. I just found out that the 1/2" would have to be cut on their larger machine which only accepts .DXF or .DWG files (don't know about 3/8"), so the plot thickens a bit with that. Previously, I'd done everything in Illustrator, so modifications were no problem.

They quote on a per piece basis. The half inch is $16 per square foot, but they would "stack" the drawings to make the most effective use of the material. After I get a drawing done, they'll give me a total price for the material and cutting. (Still waiting to hear back from the other guy.)
 
if you're going to bother to do this, spend a few extra bucks and make it from polycarbonate (Lexan). Acryllic bases scratch pretty quickly; Lexan will stay almost scratch-free (so you can see through the base).

if you don't care about the scratching, I can get them made up from 1/4" acryllic (which is plenty stiff) for about $20, plus some $ for the shipping. They are laser-cut so i can include the screw holes (but you'll have to countersink it yourself). I can even make the rectangular cut-out for dust collection. 3/8" acryllic would cost $27 plus postage.

i have the 1010 router, so if somebody wants one for a different model, you'll have to mail me the base to use as the model (or a scan, i guess).
 
if you're going to bother to do this, spend a few extra bucks and make it from polycarbonate (Lexan).

It'd be more than a few extra bucks, because going to polycarbonate puts you into the realm of waterjetting since it can't be laser cut. Unfortunately, my friend's addition to his house ran over budget, so it will be awhile before he has one of those.
 
This whole discussion brings something up.

Festool makes great products, but many of the accessories are way over priced (for what you get). I.e. the extra dust  shield for the TS55. I would expect to find something like that for around $10.00 but the German made product costs 40. I'm not advocating Festool outsource accessories to Taiwan; however, I think there is a market for alternatively manufactured aftermarket accessories.
 
Did this ever happen? 

I have a pat warner base for my colt, and just realized it would sure be nice to have one for my OF1010.
 
Jon3 said:
Did this ever happen? 

I have a pat warner base for my colt, and just realized it would sure be nice to have one for my OF1010.

Jon, no this didn't happen, sorry.
 
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