Peloton Bike?

[PaulMarcel]

I joined those up north,put on the woodworking ppe and burning calories,also the gloves enabled me to drop and additional 600 calories kept dropping the fries from my happy meal. almost forgot,A

Bahahaha... I have that poster signed by the BCTW guys and some other FOGgers in my shop... I miss hockey! Stopped before the first season when the pandemic hit because I thought things would get closed. Sure enough, they canceled the season after something like 5 games. Then came the complaints that nobody was getting any of their season money back.

 

[Rick Herrick]

I don't want a plan, I just want to ride when I want and listen/watch what I want.

Here's a few articles:

What Content Can I Access Without a Membership?

Can You Use Peloton Without Subscription? (Yes, But)

You can certainly pedal the bike for any amount of time while manually increasing/decreasing resistance, but if you're just looking to get a bike to ride and create your own workouts, there are probably much better and less expensive options out there.

Thank you.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

Vs a static 'bike' in front of a video screen in your house? 

No contest. Just none. 

This isn't a pisssing match, brother. No one is suggesting a stationary bike is superior to riding outside. It's just a different way of burning a few calories.

That's an aggressive and completely unnecessary response. It's a public forum - folks will have different opinions to yours. And FWIW - the best way to reduce calories is not to cram them into your mouth to begin with.

 

[4nthony]

That's an aggressive and completely unnecessary response. It's a public forum - folks will have different opinions to yours. And FWIW - the best way to reduce calories is not to cram them into your mouth to begin with.

You've clearly made your opinions known, from your stance on hobbyist woodworkers, to your disdain for certain tools, and now, your superior method of wheeled exercise. There's a consistent air of smugness in the majority of your posts.

I asked if any other members from this community are riding on the platform. Thanks for providing your opinion and stating why you think there's "no contest" when comparing a Peloton to a real bike even though that wasn't what was being asked.

You mentioned being sub-150? Is that kilos? Stones? Pounds? I recently turned 54, I'm 6'2 (188cm), and this morning I stepped off the scale at 192 lbs with ~15% body fat. I'm by no means heavy, overweight, or obese. I don't have a problem with cramming calories down my throat. I'm just not as lean and fit as I'd like to be. Not too long ago, I was weighing in between 175-180 with ~10% body fat. In a few months, I'll be back to that.

Again, this isn't a pisssing match. I'm glad a real bike works for you.

 

[Packard]

I have tried indoor cycling, Nordic Track (skiing), treadmill, stair climbing, and Concept II (rowing). 

For the last 20 years or so, I have stuck with the Concept II rower (30 minutes, 4 times a week lately). 

I could never get a long distance cadence with the Nordic track. 

Stair climbing (actual stairs) was a good workout, but not for 30 minutes at a time. 

The stair climbing machines at the gym were so popular that you had to arrange your entire workout around the available machine time.  Not good.

I ran track in high school, but later in life the pounding was rough on my joints and I generally only ran 2 miles per day (4 days). 

Rowing involves a larger area of muscles.  So you are getting aerobic training for your legs, arms, back and abdominals.  It also does not involve any impacts.  I live near the Hudson River (less than 1/2 mile away).  If I knew someone that was into sculling, I would have liked to try that.  But as an outsider to the sport, lots of obstacles. 

In any event, I get a second wind after about 15 - 20 minutes on the rower and I feel like I can go for an hour or more (I used to row an hour per evening). 

But when I was on a road bike, after an hour the endorphins would kick in and I would feel like I could pedal for 5 or 6 hours (which I used to do on weekends).  The endorphin rush is addictive.  I think it is what makes serious runners stick with the sport.

 

[4nthony]

I have tried indoor cycling, Nordic Track (skiing), treadmill, stair climbing, and Concept II (rowing). 

For the last 20 years or so, I have stuck with the Concept II rower (30 minutes, 4 times a week lately). 

I could never get a long distance cadence with the Nordic track. 

Stair climbing (actual stairs) was a good workout, but not for 30 minutes at a time. 

The stair climbing machines at the gym were so popular that you had to arrange your entire workout around the available machine time.  Not good.

I ran track in high school, but later in life the pounding was rough on my joints and I generally only ran 2 miles per day (4 days). 

Rowing involves a larger area of muscles.  So you are getting aerobic training for your legs, arms, back and abdominals.  It also does not involve any impacts.  I live near the Hudson River (less than 1/2 mile away).  If I knew someone that was into sculling, I would have liked to try that.  But as an outsider to the sport, lots of obstacles. 

In any event, I get a second wind after about 15 - 20 minutes on the rower and I feel like I can go for an hour or more (I used to row an hour per evening). 

But when I was on a road bike, after an hour the endorphins would kick in and I would feel like I could pedal for 5 or 6 hours (which I used to do on weekends).  The endorphin rush is addictive.  I think it is what makes serious runners stick with the sport.

My knees are also feeling the effects of all the trail running I did in my 30s. The bike is much easier on the joints.

I've never rowed but it does look like an amazing, full-body workout. I've briefly tried them in showrooms but I don't have the space for one. I barely have enough room for the Peloton bike.

I have a neighbor that does long-distance ocean prone paddling. That would be something I could get into -- it would also really help keep me in surf shape -- and is accessible to me.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

That's an aggressive and completely unnecessary response. It's a public forum - folks will have different opinions to yours. And FWIW - the best way to reduce calories is not to cram them into your mouth to begin with.

You've clearly made your opinions known, from your stance on hobbyist woodworkers, to your disdain for certain tools, and now, your superior method of wheeled exercise. There's a consistent air of smugness in the majority of your posts.

I asked if any other members from this community are riding on the platform. Thanks for providing your opinion and stating why you think there's "no contest" when comparing a Peloton to a real bike even though that wasn't what was being asked.

You mentioned being sub-150? Is that kilos? Stones? Pounds? I recently turned 54, I'm 6'2 (188cm), and this morning I stepped off the scale at 192 lbs with ~15% body fat. I'm by no means heavy, overweight, or obese. I don't have a problem with cramming calories down my throat. I'm just not as lean and fit as I'd like to be. Not too long ago, I was weighing in between 175-180 with ~10% body fat. In a few months, I'll be back to that.

Again, this isn't a pisssing match. I'm glad a real bike works for you.

Pounds. I used that scale because that's what you Colonials understand. But hey - you're a whole inch (25.4mm) taller than me, you're 10 years younger than me, and your post tells me that those levels of superiority will make you happy for sure. As for the rest of your unhinged rant  - I'm the least 'smug' person you're ever likely to meet. 36 years as a professional on the tools at the absolute top of my game and with a diary 100% full for the next 9 months, puts me in a place where I have nothing to prove to anyone. And (unlike you) I'm not judgemental - and I don't try to look like George Michael, either. Maybe you should jump off your Peleton and consider anger management therapy instead. You're Californian, so you probably have a suitable therapist living next door. Just make sure that his/her aftershave/perfume isn't 'known to the State of California to cause cancer'. And whilst you're reading the label, also make sure that his/her bottle of drinking water isn't 'known to the State of California to cause drowning' either. I'd conclude this (uncharacteristic for me as a super-humble and polite Brit) post by stating that I'm not prepared to further engage in a battle of wits and intelligence against an unarmed opponent.

That smug enough for you?

You have yourself a nice day, now.

 

[semenza]

                  Yo, rein it in there boys. Doesn't seem there was any reason for this topic to go off the rails.

Seth

 

[4nthony]

That's an aggressive and completely unnecessary response. It's a public forum - folks will have different opinions to yours. And FWIW - the best way to reduce calories is not to cram them into your mouth to begin with.

You've clearly made your opinions known, from your stance on hobbyist woodworkers, to your disdain for certain tools, and now, your superior method of wheeled exercise. There's a consistent air of smugness in the majority of your posts.

I asked if any other members from this community are riding on the platform. Thanks for providing your opinion and stating why you think there's "no contest" when comparing a Peloton to a real bike even though that wasn't what was being asked.

You mentioned being sub-150? Is that kilos? Stones? Pounds? I recently turned 54, I'm 6'2 (188cm), and this morning I stepped off the scale at 192 lbs with ~15% body fat. I'm by no means heavy, overweight, or obese. I don't have a problem with cramming calories down my throat. I'm just not as lean and fit as I'd like to be. Not too long ago, I was weighing in between 175-180 with ~10% body fat. In a few months, I'll be back to that.

Again, this isn't a pisssing match. I'm glad a real bike works for you.

Pounds. I used that scale because that's what you Colonials understand. But hey - you're a whole inch (25.4mm) taller than me, you're 10 years younger than me, and your post tells me that those levels of superiority will make you happy for sure. As for the rest of your unhinged rant  - I'm the least 'smug' person you're ever likely to meet. 36 years as a professional on the tools at the absolute top of my game and with a diary 100% full for the next 9 months, puts me in a place where I have nothing to prove to anyone. And (unlike you) I'm not judgemental - and I don't try to look like George Michael, either. Maybe you should jump off your Peleton and consider anger management therapy instead. You're Californian, so you probably have a suitable therapist living next door. Just make sure that his/her aftershave/perfume isn't 'known to the State of California to cause cancer'. And whilst you're reading the label, also make sure that his/her bottle of drinking water isn't 'known to the State of California to cause drowning' either. I'd conclude this (uncharacteristic for me as a super-humble and polite Brit) post by stating that I'm not prepared to further engage in a battle of wits and intelligence against an unarmed opponent.

That smug enough for you?

You have yourself a nice day, now.

Smug, condescending, and entitled. A triad of banality!

Thanks for staying on-brand.

 

[Vtshopdog]

Hmmm - as a retired (35 years) high end bike store owner and reasonably talented multisport aerobic athlete I thought I might have some insight to add to this discussion

but

I think

I might

not.....  ;D

 

[semenza]

                  Yo, rein it in there boys. Doesn't seem there was any reason for this topic to go off the rails.

Seth

Here I am quoting myself again.  Kill the argument and attacks.

Seth

 

[squall_line]

My parents have a trainer in their basement that they use in the winter and inclement weather.  I think their model uses their existing bike frames but without the rear wheel (as most of the models in that comparison video do).  They have it hooked up to a laptop and use some program that simulates riding in different places, varying the resistance to simulate hills and whatnot.

I don't know if they pay a subscription or not.

Advantages to a trainer:
-If you already have a bike, it takes up less space when the bike isn't attached
-More options for units/models and additional features

Disadvantages
-If you use a model that utilizes the bike's wheel, you will wear out tires faster, and usually only in the middle; better to dedicate a wheel/tire specifically to the trainer.
-A little less plug-n-play/climb-and-ride than a dedicated exercise bike

I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones that readily come to mind.

The benefits of exercise are myriad.  The thing that is both encouraging and a little maddening is that you get more benefit going from zero hours of activity per week to 3 hours of activity per week (30 minutes or so of walking at a reasonably fast pace) than you get going from 3 hours to 6 hours per week.

It's encouraging because it means if you are sedentary, you can see relatively quick health improvements from very little time commitment.  It's maddening because the inflection point for diminishing returns is pretty early in the curve.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

But when I was on a road bike, after an hour the endorphins would kick in and I would feel like I could pedal for 5 or 6 hours (which I used to do on weekends).  The endorphin rush is addictive.  I think it is what makes serious runners stick with the sport.

That is precisely what makes me feel like such a slug. Other than the commute ride, which was 20 miles round-trip, I always rode a minimum of an hour (at a pace of 16-18 mph depending on route/traffic)
On the weekly (Wednesday) group ride, I would ride the 5 miles to the start-point, do the 20 mile group ride, then 5 more home. It all came crashing down at once and I just haven't been able to get it going again.

 

[Packard]

I was training for a big climb once and I was lifting weights four times a week, running two miles 5 times a week, riding my bike 20 miles 5 times a week, and twice a week I rode 50 miles.

I prayed for rain so I could get some rest.

I did this for 4 months.  Took a week off.  Did the climb.  Got back.  Put air in my bike tires.  And then put the bike back in that garage and did not get back on it for 7 months.  Did no running for that same amount of time.  (But was able to start lifting weights again in a couple of weeks).

What I learned was I was able to work towards a peak level of conditioning, but I was not able to sustain that peak level.

After that, I planned my program so that I peaked a couple of weeks before the climb.  Rested for a couple of weeks.  Climbed.  Then returned to moderate levels of training.

I could not sustain maximum effort for unlimited amount of time. At some point my body rebelled and my mind could not conquer the physical fatigue.

 

[Vtshopdog]

I was training for a big climb once and I was lifting weights four times a week, running two miles 5 times a week, riding my bike 20 miles 5 times a week, and twice a week I rode 50 miles.

I prayed for rain so I could get some rest.

I did this for 4 months.  Took a week off.  Did the climb.  Got back.  Put air in my bike tires.  And then put the bike back in that garage and did not get back on it for 7 months.  Did no running for that same amount of time.  (But was able to start lifting weights again in a couple of weeks).

What I learned was I was able to work towards a peak level of conditioning, but I was not able to sustain that peak level.

After that, I planned my program so that I peaked a couple of weeks before the climb.  Rested for a couple of weeks.  Climbed.  Then returned to moderate levels of training.

I could not sustain maximum effort for unlimited amount of time. At some point my body rebelled and my mind could not conquer the physical fatigue.

That's a pretty burly program Packard.  Welcome to full-on overtraining. OUCH!!

Over the decades I've been fortunate enough to be friends and hang with lots of elite, international level cyclists and XC skiers.  They are all very measured with what they do and prioritize rest as well as training volume throughout their season.  One commonality I've observed is they do a surprising amount of hours at what for them is an easy pace, but when they go hard, they go REALLY hard.

Us weekend warrior types with some base level fitness tend to go hard enough to feel like we're working but stay in something of a comfort zone.  This is called no man's land, working hard enough to get long term fatigue but not hard enough to make gains.

What kind of climbs do you do?  Sounds like some sort of big alpine type adventures??