Phil demonstrating SawSop
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I tried to view the video above but with no luck. So, I found Frank doing a demo:
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I have the SawStop Industrial model (think big, heavy) and accidentally triggered the safety feature. I was using a steel tenon jig and didn't adjust it just right. It contacted the blade and "BAM" the blade disappeared instantly. The paint on the jig was just barely scratched. Of course, the cartridge and the saw blade were ruined. About $100 for the cartridge and $150 for the saw blade.
The event really startled me, but it did give me confidence the system works.
Some people claim the safety feature makes users less careful. I am just the opposite. I now am even more super careful as I don't want to trigger the safety feature again.
The event really startled me, but it did give me confidence the system works.
Some people claim the safety feature makes users less careful. I am just the opposite. I now am even more super careful as I don't want to trigger the safety feature again.
Peter Parfitt said:
Peter - hello!
Apologies if you couldn't access the video - there have been a fair few views over the last day or two - so it should be fine, and you've been kind enough to comment via your own channel on some of my other vids in the past.
Take care,
Chinski
[member=70342]Chinski[/member] He’s right, you restricted permissions to view the video outside youtube, so after hitting play I have to click the link to watch it on YouTube. If you go back and review the permissions you should be able to get it to work correctly.
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Has [member=41214]Phil Beckley[/member] seen this yet? I know that he is very busy on the road at the moment.
[member=10147]jobsworth[/member] - just imagine what you could do with one of these machines....
In true Parf-Jobby style it would be "demo-mustard-eat" !
The value of a machine like this in terms of injury, potential loss of earnings or even loss of livelihood is priceless. I am going to send a link to the video to a plastic surgeon friend of mine who does a lot of woodworking accident repair jobs and is a great advocate of workshop safety.
Peter
[member=10147]jobsworth[/member] - just imagine what you could do with one of these machines....
In true Parf-Jobby style it would be "demo-mustard-eat" !
The value of a machine like this in terms of injury, potential loss of earnings or even loss of livelihood is priceless. I am going to send a link to the video to a plastic surgeon friend of mine who does a lot of woodworking accident repair jobs and is a great advocate of workshop safety.
Peter
Birdhunter said:
One can turn the activation into a clock! [tongue]
I have yet to meet a SawStop owner or user who shows a shop behavior that supports such a claim. In fact, I have had a casual observation that some of those owners or users are even being more careful when they handle machines such as the bandsaws or mitre saws as they are no longer protected by an added level of safety.
My first use of a SawStop saw dated back to 2008 or so, and have never activated the safety feature...the thought of not wanting to trash a Woodworker II blade due to carelessness or unsafe practice is a good motivation to work safely at the table saw. In other words, the monetary "penalty" is a good deterrent.
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Birdhunter said:
What is the damage to the blade? Does it really get ruined?
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It was mentioned that one of chaps does a demo, and actually puts his finger in the blade instead of the hot dog.
He either loves hot dogs, or fully stands by, and fully supports the product.
When you actually see the demo, it’s really amazing how quick the mechanism reacts, we’re talking milliseconds!
He either loves hot dogs, or fully stands by, and fully supports the product.
When you actually see the demo, it’s really amazing how quick the mechanism reacts, we’re talking milliseconds!
Jiggy Joiner said:
I think you are confusing the SawStop technology with the Felder. In the video I saw the tester did use his finger. I would not recommend using your finger to test a SawStop as you will get a cut, albeit minor, will occur. I would not gamble a finger for a test on any tool knowing that software is what ultimately controls the deployment. No software, or in this firmware, is failsafe.
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1. The inventor of the SawStop technology was in a video where he did use his finger to trigger the stop. Not recommended!
2. My blade was totally embedded in the brake shoe. The stop process is violent. I would not want to use a blade that had been subjected to this stress.
2. My blade was totally embedded in the brake shoe. The stop process is violent. I would not want to use a blade that had been subjected to this stress.
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Birdhunter said:
Is the blade bent? Or cracked? Or simply to hard to retrieve from the aluminum brake?
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JimH2 said:
No, no confusion, it is the SawStop technology. This was discussed in front of me very recently, and many have seen it in (forgive the pun) in the flesh.
From what I understand, the Felder safety technology is quite different, and is re settable without damage. Apparently it will be used not only in table saws but, also mitre saws, band saws, and router tables etc.
Bosch also have developed something apparently?
