Protool in the US

[Tinker]

Ken, I have a 40 +/- yr old Milwaukee HoleHawg and it has, upon occasion, tried to slap me against the wall, or twist my shoulder out of its Socket.  Of course, at my best fighting weight, i was all of 149#, ringing wet.  Not much lead in my butt for tangling with that monster.  I still have it.  the HoleHawg, not the leadin my butt.  At about 135, I think it could toss me across a room.  I'm with Ron on this one. [scared]
Tinker

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Wayne,

I know what you mean.  I had a Hole Hawg before.  The Super Hawg is about twice as powerful and feels very different.  It also gets into much tighter spots.  That's why I moved up to it.

 

[HowardH]

with the US dollar and the Australian dollar at parity, it is insane how much more you guys pay compared to us US'rs.  A kapex at $1850 vs $1300? Are incomes down under commensurately higher? With the factory is subsidizing the US market, are there other countries where they are doing the same?  Are we the cheapest place to buy Festool?  You wonder how much longer this pricing strategy is going to continue.  If they are reaching their sales goals in other countries at prices more than double in some instances, we aren't going to be in this position forever.  I think its time to load up on everything you could ever possibly want before reality hits us in the noggin!  ;D ;D

 

[jmbfestool]

Protool in the UK is very small still!  Protool/Festool told my dealer its because Festool isnt big enough in the UK yet for them to justify expanding the Protool business in the UK soo they said untill they are happy with the growth of the Festool range they wont be making any effort in pushing the Protool Range in the UK.   

Maybe its the same in the USA

 

[Deansocial]

Protool in the UK is very small still!   Protool/Festool told my dealer its because Festool isnt big enough in the UK yet for them to justify expanding the Protool business in the UK soo they said untill they are happy with the growth of the Festool range they wont be making any effort in pushing the Protool Range in the UK.   

Maybe its the same in the USA

I don't think they will ever be that big....

 

[Dogwood]

hmmm not that I know much about selling and marketing tools but that doesn't seem that logical to me:

"We don't sell much protool so until we do we're not going to focus on selling protool?!"

I know there are a lot of costs involved distributing and marketing so entering a new market would be expensive but Protool has many models that would have cost a fortune to develop I would have thought it worth it. Not to mention one would think there are a lot more people spending money on construction tools like Protool than woodworking tools like Festool.

 

[jmbfestool]

hmmm not that I know much about selling and marketing tools but that doesn't seem that logical to me:

"We don't sell much protool so until we do we're not going to focus on selling protool?!"

I know there are a lot of costs involved distributing and marketing so entering a new market would be expensive but Protool has many models that would have cost a fortune to develop I would have thought it worth it. Not to mention one would think there are a lot more people spending money on construction tools like Protool than woodworking tools like Festool.

If you had said   "We don't sell much Festool so until we do we're not going to focus on selling protool?!"

THEN you would of understood what I said.

I dont know where you got that quote from but that is not what I said or meant.

I said they dont think Festool is big enough in the UK YET  untill it is THEN they will expand the Protool business.

Soooo basically what they are saying is they rather focus on getting Festool as big as possible in the UK and then work on Protool later!

Personally! I believe Protool and Festool Compliment each other and I believe one will help the other in sales terms!

JMB

 

[Deansocial]

I really can't see how it would be hard for them to just put protocol in the dealers that want it too

 

[jmbfestool]

I really can't see how it would be hard for them to just put protocol in the dealers that want it too

+1
I agree!

Just saying thats the Reason why Protool aint expanding here in the UK and could be why they are not bothering in the USA yet

JMB

 

[Dogwood]

Sorry JMB i wasn't trying to sound like I was putting words in your mouth. Just making a silly quote to show how I thought Festools reasoning sounded silly to me. And it is not that I don't believe you are correct in why they are not pushing Protool in the UK.

I guess I simply agree with you and DeanSocial- Protool would compliment Festool very well and how difficult or expensive would it be to start selling them in stores that carry Protool?

Like I said I am naive to the finer details of tool sales I just figured if a company goes to all the trouble of making tools sending them to stores so consumers can buy them seems like the easy and cheap part. Dunno.

 

[jmbfestool]

Sorry JMB i wasn't trying to sound like I was putting words in your mouth. Just making a silly quote to show how I thought Festools reasoning sounded silly to me. And it is not that I don't believe you are correct in why they are not pushing Protool in the UK.

I guess I simply agree with you and DeanSocial- Protool would compliment Festool very well and how difficult or expensive would it be to start selling them in stores that carry Protool?

Like I said I am naive to the finer details of tool sales I just figured if a company goes to all the trouble of making tools sending them to stores so consumers can buy them seems like the easy and cheap part. Dunno.

I agree!  

Just to add to the confusion here!

I was told when a Protool tool needs repairing it gets sent to the same place you send your Festool tools to to get fixed!  I know this cus I own a few Protool tools!

 

[Kev]

Down in Oz we get a really good range of Protool gear ... on features the Protool cordless drills should be more expensive than Festool -  but they're not.

Shhhh !!  [wink]. Things are expensive enough already.

 

[Deansocial]

Sorry JMB i wasn't trying to sound like I was putting words in your mouth. Just making a silly quote to show how I thought Festools reasoning sounded silly to me. And it is not that I don't believe you are correct in why they are not pushing Protool in the UK.

I guess I simply agree with you and DeanSocial- Protool would compliment Festool very well and how difficult or expensive would it be to start selling them in stores that carry Protool?

Like I said I am naive to the finer details of tool sales I just figured if a company goes to all the trouble of making tools sending them to stores so consumers can buy them seems like the easy and cheap part. Dunno.

The fact that festools ate not stocked in the uk , they are sent to the dealer direct from Germany make me thing it not hard at all to get protocols here but I guess they have a hard time getting dealers to sock the more expensive items.

 

[Kev]

Sorry JMB i wasn't trying to sound like I was putting words in your mouth. Just making a silly quote to show how I thought Festools reasoning sounded silly to me. And it is not that I don't believe you are correct in why they are not pushing Protool in the UK.

I guess I simply agree with you and DeanSocial- Protool would compliment Festool very well and how difficult or expensive would it be to start selling them in stores that carry Protool?

Like I said I am naive to the finer details of tool sales I just figured if a company goes to all the trouble of making tools sending them to stores so consumers can buy them seems like the easy and cheap part. Dunno.

The fact that festools ate not stocked in the uk , they are sent to the dealer direct from Germany make me thing it not hard at all to get protocols here but I guess they have a hard time getting dealers to sock the more expensive items.

That distribution model really surprises me!

One thing you have to keep in mind is that a retailer has to be "sold" a proposition to put stuff on their shelves ... most may see stocking Protool as something that would only take sales from their others brands ... so "why bother". This is where the expense comes in - marketing the brand in the channel ... Trained reps, localised marketing material, demo equipment, merchandising displays and so forth.