Question regarding the LR32 & Longitudinal Stops

[SH-BoBo]

I’ve been eyeing the LR32 system and believe I correctly understand that you can use the longitudinal stops to position you first hole at any of 9.5MM, 16MM & 32MM from the top/bottom edge of your work piece at whatever depth from the front you choose.

My question is what happens if you put (what I presume to be) the 4th / blank side of the longitudinal stop “up & out”?  Any chance it simply shifts the 9.5MM registration point by 16MM to 25.5MM the same way you can shift between 16MM and 32MM?  That would be an ideal outcome for the cabinet style I am thinking of building.  But if it doesn’t work out to 25.5MM, anyone have any suggestions on how to lobby Festool to make a different part that would allow for that registration shift?

Many thanks in advance for any and all information you may be able to provide.

 

[Coen]

Yes, see attached

Well, I assume you mean 25 millimeters (mm) and not MegaMol (MM)  [tongue]

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[SH-BoBo]

LOL, yes, mm was the intent.  Thank you for both correcting my misrepresentation of the metric system and providing the photographic evidence regarding my question.  Much appreciated.

 

[Bugsysiegals]

I use the 25.5mm up/out with a 3mm spacer (system registered holes) or 9.5mm up/out with 3mm spacer (shifted registration holes) to achieve the frameless Half Overlay cabinet dimensions from Davelers.  While all the information from his site was overwhelming, and still is not instinctive, his drawings seemed to help keep things as consistent as possible while minimizing wasted space which is why I'm using his drawings.

That said, frameless HO cabinets with long top/bottom panels have first hole starts of 22.5/6.5mm.  6.5mm is to short for anything and I believe 22.5 just works with under mount slides but these holes are to short for side mount slides (shop cabinets) so I use second hole (guide rail) starts which are 54.5/38.5mm from the bottom.  Since I attach the drawer dividers/stretchers with Domino's it doesn't matter to me whether I use 54.5 (system) versus 38.5 (shifted) registration but if you're using dowels perhaps it makes sense to use system registration.

For frameless HO cabinets with long sides, I'll simply remove the 3mm spacer and have first hole starts of 25.5/9.5 or second hole starts of 57.5/41.5 but 25.5 should work great for under mounts with minimal wasted space.

To help clarify what I'm talking about, I'm attaching the drawings I use from Davelers, and for simplicity I've highlighted the starting hole measurements for long side panels in Orange and long top/bottom panels in Green.

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[SH-BoBo]

Thanks Bugsy.  I have been wading through Dave's pages and have been focusing primarily on the railed inset style.  My take on that wealth of information is that a 57.5mm (25.5 up & out + 32mm) shifted registration start hole gets me 38.5mm bottom clearance which is enough to use the Blum undermount slides (37mm required) I am familiar with. 

I have not spent much time looking at half overlay yet, but I thought I read it had the same 57.5mm shifted start as railed inset.  I was thinking I will definitely need a 6mm spacer block for drilling the 35mm cup holes but will not need a spacer for any of the system holes given that my "25.5mm up and out" premise will work.  I'll take another look when I get a little more comfortable with railed inset.

Thanks again for your reply.