RAS Question

tvgordon

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For those you use the RAS sander, how does it differ (other than dust collection) from an angle grinder?

I have a DeWalt angle grinder and have the pad that accepts sandpaper, so what can the RAS do that the angle grinder can't do?

Thanks for your help,
Tom
 
tvgordon said:
For those you use the RAS sander, how does it differ (other than dust collection) from an angle grinder?

I have a DeWalt angle grinder and have the pad that accepts sandpaper, so what can the RAS do that the angle grinder can't do?

Thanks for your help,
Tom

The differences are:  dust collection (which you noted) and the variable speed function along with available backing sanding pads with different densities.

Peter
 
Compared to other grinders the ras is a little heavier at the head.  It seems counter intuitive that that would be a good thing but the weight reduces the chatter when scribing a fine line.
 
Chris Hughes said:
Compared to other grinders the ras is a little heavier at the head.  It seems counter intuitive that that would be a good thing but the weight reduces the chatter when scribing a fine line.

Agreed!  You can even operate it one handed and rotate the dust shroud with your thumb while scribing. 
 
The RAS is a toned down angle grinder. Where the normal angle grinder is mostly meant for working with metal, the RAS was made less powerfull to make it more suited for the softer material that is wood. An angle grinder typically has 10.000 rpm and power ranging from 800 to 1400 watt, while the RAS has only 3800 rpm and 500 watt.

The problem with a normal angle grinder when you want to use it with wood is that it is so agressive that it can grind your paint and wood away faster than you'd like.

The difference between a RAS and a grinder depends on for what you want to use it exactly. Lots of Americans here seem to be very fond of using the RAS for scribing, and apart from the dust collection, it doesn't make much difference if you use the RAS or an angle grinder for this task.

But if you want to use the RAS for what it was meant to do, namely fast paint removal, then the RAS has a huge advantage over an angle grinder. Because the RAS behaves like a real sander, albeit a powerful one, but still a sander, and makes it easy to concentrate your efforts on the layer of paint alone. The grinder on the other hand, is so powerful and aggressive that it will eat the wood under the paint just as easily as it will eat the paint, leaving you with the difficult task to leave a smooth surface. Of course it can be done with an angle grinder if you're careful, but it actually takes a lot of effort not to mess things up. And that is simply wasted energy. Now when you want to do larger surfaces, the RAS is a lot more precise and more comfortable to work with.
 
The difference the dust collection makes compared to an angle grinder ( when used on paint,wood, sheet rock, etc.) is astounding, as is the amount of control you have over what you are trying to remove.
 
Dust collection may seem like a minor difference that's not worth the price, but don't sell it short.

A couple of years ago I used an angle grinder to remove paint from a concrete floor. That produced so much dust that at times I had to stop working because I couldn't see what I was doing. Think of the thickest fog you've personally experienced and you'll get a good idea of how bad it was. Yes, I was wearing a respirator. But when it gets that bad, I still worry about some getting past it. Not to mention the massive cleanup afterwards.

Now that I know about (and have) the RAS, it's nice to be able to say "Never Again!" Next time I have to do something like that, the job will be faster (minimal cleanup and no forced breaks) and safer, especially if I'm removing lead paint.
 
Thanks for the help.

When watching the many videos on coping and scribing I forgot that one of the main uses for the sander is paint removal.

I wasn't discounting the dust collection. I just wasn't making it the main reason for buying the RAS because I probably wouldn't use the tool too often and, in the videos, it didn't look like the dust collection was as good as on the Rotex sanders.

I think I would use it mainly for sculpting curves on furniture, then paint removal and rarely for coping and scribing.

Tom
 
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