Re: Guide rail speed square... dedicated 90 for crosscutting and shelf dadoes.

[The Dude]

This is yet another outstanding invention from Dr.Qwas. Continuing with the
Qwas Branding, the Qwas Rail Fence will be made of 1/8 Aluminum, and will
be black anodized.  

Included with the actual fence will be the brass thumb
screws and bolts that allow you to fasten your Qwas Rail Fence to the rail.
The initial Prototype was cut with water jets today, and will be made
available for final on Monday or Tuesday.  Once the final is approved, the
milling aspect is put "box 1" for fabrication.  We have been using the jig for
several days, and it is a true gem; Time saving, repetative, and accurate as all get out.

Festool Junkie is offering a Pre-Order Yours Today for $54.99 Plus Shipping on the Qwas Rail Fence.  The initial run is for limited to 50 so act quickly, they are moving along nicely.
get em whilst the gettin' is hot.

 

[The Dude]

I just want to thank the several Qwas fanatics that have pre-ordered their Qwas Rail Fence.  We used it again last night to cross cut some shelving, and man!  It is really slick.  We had a friend in  the shop that is doing an install on some build in's (on site) tomorrow, and he is borrowing it today for the job.

Thanks again to those lucky dude!

Timmy

 

[Brice Burrell]

I just ordered one too Timmy. [thumbs up] Looking forward to this puppy.

 

[The Dude]

I just ordered one too Timmy. [thumbs up] Looking forward to this puppy.

Brice I saw that.  Congratulations, this thing is going to be very very slick!  I am anxious to have your take on it.  Come on WaterJet.  Let's get these things rolling!!!!

Thanks Brice!

Timmy

 

[Qwas]

This is yet another outstanding invention from Dr.Qwas. Continuing with the
Qwas Branding, the Qwas Rail Fence will be made of  1/8 Aluminum, and will
be black anodized.  ...

I just want to clarify that it will be 3/16 inch thick aluminum plate. Our prototype was 1/8 inch and it seems pretty strong, but I like the idea of a little more strength and the extra thickness for the reference edge that the 3/16 will give.  [smile]

 

[danrush]

Timmy,

Looking forward to taking delivery also.  I have a big job starting at the end of the month (about 20 site built carcases and a bunch of semi custom cabs to install.  I'd love to give this thing a workout. 

Steve, thanks for taking the ball and running with it.

Dan

 

[The Dude]

Mr. Dan "the Ultimate Tool Man" Claremont will has ordered quite a few of these items as well along with the Qwas Dogs.  So Canadian distribution will also be an option.

Thanks Dan!

Timmy

Modified to add some attachments.

 

[Jonhilgen]

Just ordered one.  Spent about a half hour yesterday fussing around cutting cabinet parts trying to get the cuts square (on top of all of the time I waste on other jobs doing the same thing...)  Can't wait to put this to work.

Thanks Qwas.

 

[peter halle]

I love the idea, but before I order I want to make sure of one thing.  With this attached, will I be able to cut a 48 inch piece of plywood using the standard 1400 mm rail safely with adequate starting and ending room?

Peter

 

[Qwas]

Peter, the simple answer is no. The 1400 rail is barely long enough to make cuts of that length on its own. It is only 7 inches longer than the plywood, leaving 3.5 on each end.

 

[Brice Burrell]

I love the idea, but before I order I want to make sure of one thing.  With this attached, will I be able to cut a 48 inch piece of plywood using the standard 1400 mm rail safely with adequate starting and ending room?

Peter

Peter, the simple answer is no. This was discussed in the previous thread but the 1400 rail is barely long enough to make cuts of that length on its own. It is only 7 inches longer than the plywood, leaving 3.5 on each end.

This is why I prefer using the 1900 mm rail for cross cutting, so I'll be fine with full 48" width sheet materials.

 

[The Dude]

I love the idea, but before I order I want to make sure of one thing.  With this attached, will I be able to cut a 48 inch piece of plywood using the standard 1400 mm rail safely with adequate starting and ending room?

Peter

Good Morning Pete, my prototype is being used.  I used the rail fence on some 34 1/4 wide.  I have deferred this question to Dr. Qwas so we should have an answer for you soon.

Timmy

 

[Brice Burrell]

I love the idea, but before I order I want to make sure of one thing.  With this attached, will I be able to cut a 48 inch piece of plywood using the standard 1400 mm rail safely with adequate starting and ending room?

Peter

Peter, the simple answer is no. This was discussed in the previous thread but the 1400 rail is barely long enough to make cuts of that length on its own. It is only 7 inches longer than the plywood, leaving 3.5 on each end.

This is why I prefer using the 1900 mm rail for cross cutting, so I'll be fine with full 48" width sheet materials.

This gets me thinking. What if you bought a 2400mm (92") rail and cut it to 1600mm (63") so it could be used with the Qwas rail fence to cut a full 48" sheet of ply. You'd have 800mm (31 1/2") piece left over for shorter cross cuts.

I know Timmy likes to go the extra mile for his customers so maybe he'd be able cut a 2400mm rail down to size and sell them as a package with the Qwas rail square. (Hay, Timmy, you like how I volunteered you ;D).

Well, it's just a thought.

 

[The Dude]

I love the idea, but before I order I want to make sure of one thing.  With this attached, will I be able to cut a 48 inch piece of plywood using the standard 1400 mm rail safely with adequate starting and ending room?

Peter

Peter, the simple answer is no. This was discussed in the previous thread but the 1400 rail is barely long enough to make cuts of that length on its own. It is only 7 inches longer than the plywood, leaving 3.5 on each end.

This is why I prefer using the 1900 mm rail for cross cutting, so I'll be fine with full 48" width sheet materials.

This gets me thinking. What if you bought a 2400mm (92") rail and cut it to 1600mm (63") so it could be used with the Qwas rail fence to cut a full 48" sheet of ply. You'd have 800mm (31 1/2") piece left over for shorter cross cuts.

I know Timmy likes to go the extra mile for his customers so maybe he'd be able cut a 2400mm rail down to size and sell them as a package with the Qwas rail square. (Hay, Timmy, you like how I volunteered you ;D).

Well, it's just a thought.

Actually, that might not be a bad idea Brice.  Providing I charge the appropriate price per inch, I am in line with the Festool Licensing.  Hmmmmmm..............

Timmy  [wink]

 

[Corwin]

It looks like this product will not allow the guide rail to be clamped down to the workpiece at that end.  Is this correct, or is there something here that I am not seeing?  IMO, not clamping is fine for cutting material with the saw, but I would not attempt any routing operations without the rail clamped down.

 

[Qwas]

Corwin, you are right, no space for a clamp. I thought about it but then it would interfere with the fence being a square triangle off of the rail. My thinking is if you are routing chances are you are on the bench where other clamping options are available. You could clamp the Rail Fence to the table, slide the Rail Fence farther on the guide rail and then clamp the rail, etc...

 

[RONWEN]

It appears that Steve could create a small notch at the right front corner (register edge), just enough clearance for a clamp so it could be used for routing operations in addition to sawing.  Perhaps that will be version#2.
As far as the rail length, the 1900mm allows a full 12" (the overall length of the TS55) on each side of a 48" sheet.  That is more than needed but still a quite manageable length for handling around the shop.

 

[RONWEN]

Corwin, you are right, no space for a clamp. I thought about it but then it would interfere with the fence being a square triangle off of the rail. My thinking is if you are routing chances are you are on the bench where other clamping options are available. You could clamp the Rail Fence to the table, slide the Rail Fence farther on the guide rail and then clamp the rail, etc...

Steve, I'm not clear on that, could you snap a close-up picture of the underside with the square attached?  From the "far away" picture above it looks like there could be a "U" shape notch just wide enough for the clamp -- There also may be a bit of trimming required on the nut you attach the square with.

 

[Qwas]

There is room for it on the prototype and it will be a little tighter on the final product but do-able. You need at least a 1/2 inch square notch to make the clamp fit in there. I still don't like the idea of doing it. This square triangle will be almost as precise as a machinist square (waiting to see how close the production run comes to it). How would you like to have a 1/2 inch square knocked out of the corner of your square? It's the most important area for laying the square in place.

The better answer to using a clamp before the fence would be to attach an auxiliary fence sticking out from the reference edge by 1/2 inch, and have the aux fence notched, or have it come 1/2 inch short of the corner.  [smile]

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[wnagle]

The FS-Rapid clamp would work on the far end of the rail and qwas speed square would act as the stop.  Or you could use the gecco clamps depending on the material you were using.