Results from use of CXS, installation kit, and This-is-Carpentry cabinet jacks

RonMiller

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I've done 9 kitchen cabinet installs since getting the CXS and thought I'd report in. It has exceeded my wishes for a cabinet driver/drill. I've held it all day long and it has yet to feel heavy. The charge lasts all day. And it's the little well-thought-out touches that I really appreciate, such as, the light actually lights up the area where the tip is! (My Bosches never did that, generally good as they were.) The magnetic bit holder lets me slide bits off and on easily - thought it was a gimmick - it's not, it's genuinely helpful. It fits my hand perfectly - it's really like my hand was the model for designing the thing. I realize that won't be true for others, but for me it's a great fit. So far no complaints at all - I just need to save the $ for a T18, so I can ditch the heavy Rigid. Oh, and I've used the right angle attachment many times - tight quarters were a problem for me in the past.

The installers kit was expensive but I love organization and not losing things - this ensures that. Everything works great and I've used several of the items that I thought I didn't have need for. I like the larger countersink especially. It's so smooth and I can be very precise with how much I go into a piece.

Finally, thanks to whoever on here pointed me to the make-it-yourself cabinet jacks from This is Carpentry. I didn't make them quite the same way - I changed the way the pipe is held by cutting the core of the stand in half, running a v in each half that snuggly fit the pipe, and then gluing it back together. The adjustment is more precise and it can handle more weight than the Fastcap little hands I used to use (before a handle broke).

Hope this helps someone decide about these things. I'll gladly answer any questions.
 
Hey Ron!  I'm in the same boat as you. I'm primarily an installer kitchens & custom builds. My CXS & C15 are my most used Festool tools!  I love using the drills and almost always seem to reach for the CXS...unless I'm doing some heavy drilling!

I am interested in your build of the cabinet hacks and am wondering if you wouldn't mind posting some pics to see your design. I've always liked the design of the concept that was in This is Carpentry, but never got around to making them...having seen your post kinda prodded me to get going on these!  I use the fastcap little hands, but prefer something a bit stronger!

Thanks!

Bob
 
Another request for pics of your cabinet jacks, after installing this last kitchen I've realized
its time to make a set.  Thanks
 
I can't post until Monday but will do so then. They're really solid and the control is very precise.
 
In 2004 & 5 the big woodworking tool supply houses carried a cabinet jack that was powered by an ordinary power drill. I never saw one in person, but it looked  about the size of a large toaster. Power was provided through a 3/8" socket in the front. Some of the photos in advertisements showed a single jack supporting smaller cabinets.

But I guess two were required for larger cabinets. Then suddenly, it seems this useful gadget was pulled from the market. Does anyone remember those?
 
RonMiller said:
And it's the little well-thought-out touches that I really appreciate...

This, 1000 times over. The mag strip on the front of the CXS and the belt hanger are the real stand-out things for me that make it a pleasure to use.

Interesting idea with the cabinet jacks - and thanks for posting the link to the TIC article. I tend to just use a pair of quick clamps set up as a spreader for this, though it would be good to have the jacks right under the cabinet rather than just on the front edge(s); wonder if you could adapt a pair of cheap scissor jacks for the job??

Pete
 
Ron,
I'd like to see the pics of your cabinet jacks, too!!!! I'll run a follow-up article in TiC. Shoot some pics of using them, too. Maybe we'll do a Sketchup drawing to show the alternation...
Gary
 
Well I'm interested too I ended up using the ones I had for my miter saw stand wings. :)
 
I'm using my cabinet jacks to hold up the wings on my miter saw [big grin]

Sorry for the bad English. My wife would have...  ... for that.
 
RonMiller said:
Hope this helps someone decide about these things. I'll gladly answer any questions.

I've tried it at my dealers and I love the way it feels.  I want to bring only one drill/driver to the site for a cabinet install.  Can the CXS be that one drill/driver?
 
I would say you'd be safe taking just the CXS.  I've used it the past two weekends installing gun cabinets and it did everything I could've asked of it.  The only area I wouldn't use it in would be for drilling for concealed hinges.
 
Another place the CXS shines is in installing drawer glides in an already-constructed cabinet with a face frame. 

[smile]
 
Here are a few pictures I took today while doing a bar installation.

The jack's basic dimensions are similar to the TIC model but I lessened the height so that it's lowest height is precisely 16". That is when the pipe is fully down on the base. At that lowest level the clamp can move it up about 2 inches but of course the clamp can be raised and so can the pipe. At first I thought the pipe would always have to be grounded on the base but the fit is so snug and the clamp strong enough that I can raise the pipe and the clamp to get almost 24 inches out of it. Generally, I put other 3/4" material, like shelves, under the jack if I want to raise it higher though, as you'll see in the pictures.

The base and top are 3/4" material, the pipe is 1" (about 1 1/4" outside diameter, if I recall correctly). The core is 2" poplar that I cut in half and then made a "v" with my Sawstop. It's a very snug fit but that's easy to accomplish. When studying the "awesome, wicked" design I couldn't figure out the benefits of the hardwood and plastic sections, other than a tight fit. Maybe they do something real important but if so, I missed it. I wanted to do something simpler but still precise, and this is it. The two parts were glued back together and then the side pieces screwed in.

If I were to make another set I'd make the core section fatter so the face of the clamp would have more area to drive against. And I'd make the top a bit smaller so it does not interfere with the clamp handle (which it does now sometimes when the screw is fully extended).

I like to gang upper cabinets together and put them up as a unit. These jacks are easily strong enough for that to happen. These initial photos demonstrate that.

If I've forgotten to answer a question or you have more, fire away and I'll try to help. MANY SINCERE THANKS for the TIC article and especially two of my fellow-class-members at the Festool cabinet class in November who reminded me of the design. It's been a big help in my installs and saved me $. Oh, and if my tweaked design needs a name, they're the "righteous cabinet jacks".

 
Ron, great job on your jack!  I'm definitely needing to build mine ASAP!  They will blow the fastcap third hand out of the water as far as stability is concerned!  Thank you for sharing!!!

Bob
 
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