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[Stone Message]

Pete.  As always great job on your part

Thanks
Sal

many thanks Sal.

Peter

 

[Pretzel Logic]

Hey Peter, great ideas, I especially like the tongs.

I've watched your videos for some time now and appreciate all the info and time and effort you put into them. I do worry about the second video here though.

At the 4:30 mark, you begin to describe an operation on the router table that is pretty dangerous.  I know you go to some length to take into account the rotation of the cutter and the direction to move the workpiece, but you should never trap the workpiece between the bit and the fence without using a good automatic power feed roller.

You could move the fence away from the bit by 120mm(the width of the aperture) minus the bit diameter and then work on the opposing edge while moving the workpiece in the normal direction on a router table. Or you could make a pattern.

Thanks
Ed

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Ed,

You are right that a template would be a better way but holding quite small pieces needs a bit of thought.

Any router operation should be considered as dangerous and nobody should attempt to do any operation unless they are sure of what they are doing. I remember meeting a friend of a FOGger at W12 who had injured himself by putting work into a router table such that the router took the work away from him so rapidly that he caught his hand on the cutter. The main thing I tried to get across is that one must always work in such a way that the wood has to be pushed against the force of the cutter which is trying to push it back towards you.

Nobody should attempt any operation with any tool that they have not been taught to do in a face to face class situation.

Peter

 

[Pretzel Logic]

Any router operation should be considered as dangerous and nobody should attempt to do any operation unless they are sure of what they are doing.

This router operation is very dangerous and nobody should even attempt it, no matter how sure of what they are doing they may think they are.

When things go south here, they will go bad in a hurry.  You are holding the opposite side of a dainty frame that’s only connected by two bits of short grain material.  If you are lucky, the frame breaks and the ensuing missile flies harmlessly off the wall behind you.  The frame could dig into your hand, break fingers and send bits of wood flying.  The stress on a 1/4” shank bit can snap the cutter off sending it flying across the room.

The main thing I tried to get across is that one must always work in such a way that the wood has to be pushed against the force of the cutter which is trying to push it back towards you.

There are better ways to demonstrate the rotation of the bit and the proper direction to move material across the cutter head.

Nobody should attempt any operation with any tool that they have not been taught to do in a face to face class situation.

People teach others bad or dangerous methods face to face often enough.  If anyone paid to learn to trap the workpiece between the cutter and fence in a classroom situation, they should probably get a refund.

I’m sorry if I come off harshly here.  I went to school for woodworking.  A school has insurance premiums and liabilities to worry about.  Safety is more focused there than the average woodworker’s basement/garage shop.  This operation would never fly there.

Just move the fence 120mm minus the diameter of the bit and work on the opposite side.  If the material moves off the fence, then the bit is in the free space of the aperture.  A pattern could be made 3 inches larger on all sides.  You could then use a pattern bit or flush trim bit to size the hole and a rabbit bit to make the rebate.  This would keep hands and push blocks farther from the cutter.

Hope this helps
Ed

 

[Stone Message]

Hi Ed

I take safety seriously and accept all of you points. I cannot re-shoot the sequence but I have deleted it. Many thanks.

YouTube takes several minutes to complete the deletion of a section.

Peter