Something simple your Domino can do

bill-e

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I needed to make a cleat that was going to be cross grained to a panel so it had to allow for movement.

Using the Domino I set the depth of plunge to leave enough wood so the screw would protrude about 9/16".  I installed the 10mm bit and plunged.  Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.
 
Bill,

Thanks, I would like to add to the "another thing you can do with

your domino."

Silly me didn't take any pictures with this one.

I will try to describe in my stunted prose.

Door hanging and repair. (I know, this ain't furniture)

If you have a bad hinge mount on the jamb side of a interior door.

Sink a domino in there with glue then flush cut it.

This got me thinking. On door less entryways I use 3/4 MDF with 1/4

plywood du jour/job, vacuumed bag to it.

I would love to make jambs this way as they are incredibly straight

and strong.  But never hold a screw.

Well, they can now.  Fast.

Per
 
bill-e said:
I needed to make a cleat that was going to be cross grained to a panel so it had to allow for movement.

Using the Domino I set the depth of plunge to leave enough wood so the screw would protrude about 9/16".  I installed the 10mm bit and plunged.  Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

Way too cool Bill.  I was about to plunk down some cash on one of those stepped router bits, but I'll save the money and use the Domino (when it gets here). 
 
Bill,

That's a great idea!!! 

I can think of multiple ways to achieve the same thing; dedicated mortice machine & a drill, drilling multiple holes & cleaning with a chisel however no other method I can think of is as eloquent or fast as with the Domi or can be so easily done on a partially assembled frame.

Sweet!!!

Per,

Again another great idea!!! 

And your on track for the Domi "tip a day" you started the other day....

The idea of using the Domino to over come the inherent screw holding problem in the ply edge of plywood(or striped screws in solid wood) is nothing short of "Brilliant"!!!  That trick or tip will very helpful.

"Thanks Guys!!!" for two "outside of the box" ideas,
jim
 
Some how, i missed this thread.  i think i was either plowing snow, or recovering that day.  Those are two great tips.  Both very common problems made so quick And simple with the Domino.  you guys are terrible.  you have just pulled the rug out from under me completely.  i will now have to cheat on my income tax so i can afford to take another trip to my toy supplier.  I can't stand it (Thankyou Charlie Brown)
Tinker     
PS  if my accountant is listening, i was only kidding about the tax stuff.
 
bill-e said:
I needed to make a cleat that was going to be cross grained to a panel so it had to allow for movement.

Using the Domino I set the depth of plunge to leave enough wood so the screw would protrude about 9/16".  I installed the 10mm bit and plunged.  Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

That's an excellent idea, one of those things that makes you think, "Why didn't I come up with that?"

I'm building a new butcher-block counter top, and I might use this technique to install it.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this.

Stay in touch,
Matthew
 
Per Swenson said:
Bill,
Thanks, I would like to add to the "another thing you can do with your domino."
Silly me didn't take any pictures with this one.
I will try to describe in my stunted prose.
Door hanging and repair. (I know, this ain't furniture)
If you have a bad hinge mount on the jamb side of a interior door.
Sink a domino in there with glue then flush cut it.
This got me thinking. On door less entryways I use 3/4 MDF with 1/4 plywood du jour/job, vacuumed bag to it.
I would love to make jambs this way as they are incredibly straight and strong.  But never hold a screw.
Well, they can now.  Fast.
Per

Per,
Do you mean that a portion of MDF is replaced with a domino?  If that's what you mean, I can imagine many applications for this.

I've never liked driving screws or nails into MDF.  It always seems to me that it doesn't hold very well.  But this idea you offered would solve that problem.  For example, let's say you wanted to make a built-in book shelf with MDF walls.  You could put some dominoes in the edges of the walls, say every six inches.  Then, when installing the face frame, you would use those Domino inserts as the nail or screw points.  You could use MDF, but get the strength of solid wood in key spots.

Excellent!

Thanks for the idea!

Stay in touch,
Matthew
 
bill-e said:
I needed to make a cleat that was going to be cross grained to a panel so it had to allow for movement.

Using the Domino I set the depth of plunge to leave enough wood so the screw would protrude about 9/16".  I installed the 10mm bit and plunged.  Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

Very Handy, thanks to Bill.
 
bill-e said:
Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

I'm guessing this question has been asked before, but I haven't seen the answer. When plunging right through a piece of wood with the Domino, how clean is the exit site? Is there much break-through? When possible to use one, is a backer board needed to keep the exit clean?

Thanks
 
Upscale said:
bill-e said:
Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

I'm guessing this question has been asked before, but I haven't seen the answer. When plunging right through a piece of wood with the Domino, how clean is the exit site? Is there much break-through? When possible to use one, is a backer board needed to keep the exit clean?

Thanks
Depends on your technique, the wood, etc.  I would use a backer board, generally same rules as using a router.
 
Upscale said:
bill-e said:
Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

I'm guessing this question has been asked before, but I haven't seen the answer. When plunging right through a piece of wood with the Domino, how clean is the exit site? Is there much break-through? When possible to use one, is a backer board needed to keep the exit clean?

Thanks
I don't think you supposed to plunge all the way.For this application.
 
Upscale said:
bill-e said:
Next I changed to the 5mm bit and plunged from the other side of the cleat.  I now had a nice slot which was large enough to accept the head of a pocket screw.

I'm guessing this question has been asked before, but I haven't seen the answer. When plunging right through a piece of wood with the Domino, how clean is the exit site? Is there much break-through? When possible to use one, is a backer board needed to keep the exit clean?

Thanks

In my experience it is not clean at all. I plunged through plywood to make domidrawers and there was quite a lot of tearout. In my case the tearout side was hidden, but I would use a backer board if it is going to be visible.
 
I agree with Richard, for all the more time involved I would go in from both sides if it's a workpiece that matters (most all do matter).  [wink]
 
I also agree with Richard, but I have to say that I've made some tearout-free holes with no backer just by boring through very slowly at the end of the plunge.  I regarded it as lucky and would use a backer if both sides will show.  But if for some reason you're working on an already-assembled piece and it's not practical to use a backer, go slowly.

Regards,

John
 
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