Sys3 Mounting Rails

[gsdvorak]

Thought I'd post a quick review on the Sys3 mounting rails from Tanos.  Full disclosure:  I was sent these from Tim at the [member=68900]Systainer.Store[/member] and provided him with pictures and review.

Before purchasing my recent M89 units and Sys3 137, my Systainers were a mix of the classic version as well as T-Loc, and mounted in mobile racks or my Systainer wall using full-extension glides mounted to trays for the Systainer.  Typically, I like to store the tools in their Systainer until needed, and will take the tool to the work and leave the Systainer on the storage tray.  However, for Systainers containing consumables (screws, sandpaper, etc) I like to take the entire Systainer to the work to allow me easy access to the various screw sizes/sandpaper grits without having to keep going back to the storage trays.

In order to mount the Sys3 brackets in the same space, I mounted them on 5/8” cleats.  I used some short pan head screws to mount the glides to the cleats.  Some pros/cons of the rails for my use:

Pros:
- Rails easy to install and saves valuable vertical storage space.  If storage ports are re-designed, will save about an inch in width
- Systainers 'lock' in closed position by front tabs on the rails and are secure from sliding forward.  Note that you need an extra 1/4” in height to lift over the tab.  I left 1/2” when installing the Sys3 137 but could have installed closer to the top of the mobile rack.
- Systainers glide easily on the rails.  I made a divider system for sandpaper for the Sys3 137 and loaded with RTS and DTS sandpaper.  It’s not a lot of weight, so not a true test of a ‘fully loaded’ Systainer.
- Systainer easily lifts off the rails for transport.

Cons:
- Only one identified so far is that you cannot open the lid for easy access to all contents while Systainer is on the rails. 

I hope this helps some of you that are considering purchasing some of these rails.  I do plan on purchasing additional rails and Sys3 units as I continue organization efforts.

Regards,
Gerald

 

[Rick Herrick]

How are you using the M89 units? I bought a couple for both me and my wife, to try out.  The configuration of boxes inside were kind of useless.  So many very small opening boxes that we can't figure out any use for.  You can buy other, bigger boxes but they are sold out and may be for a while.

 

[Systainer.Store]

Thank you [member=20329]Gerald_D[/member] for the review and the disclosure.  A few customers volunteered to try out the units so that Tanos and I could get their feedback.

On Friday (November 6th) I should receive my inventory of these rail kits.  I've enabled them for ordering at Systainer.Store.  Check them out here: https://systainer.store/products/systainer3-rail-set

 

[mac sparrow]

Finally some information on these, thank you.

For a change you guys get a Tanos/Festool product before us across the pond.

 

[Systainer.Store]

I learned there is a good reason for this.  Bott and Tanos have codeveloped and agreements related to SYS3 and racking.  This particular item, if I understand right, is for Bott to lead on in Europe where Tanos can lead in the USA.

 

[Cheese]

Cons:
- Only one identified so far is that you cannot open the lid for easy access to all contents while Systainer is on the rails. 

Thanks for the review Gerald.  [smile]

When you mention the cover doesn't open up fully, what's the approximate angle of the opening? Less than 45º?

 

[gsdvorak]

[member=72312]Rick Herrick[/member], two of them have wood screws in them.  For me, I could have used fewer of the small square bins and a couple more of the ‘doubles’ but it works for now.  The 3rd one I just received so haven’t decided what will be in that one, but will likely be fasteners of some sort.

[member=44099]Cheese[/member], yes, less than 45 degrees if unit is at the top of the rack or with something above it.  The pics I included with them pulled out is fully extended on the rails, which as you can see is about 1/2 to 2/3 extended.

Regards,
Gerald

 

[mkasdin]

So with the rail kit can you open the lid fully or is the rails more for bin storage organization? I was intending to make a sys cart(s) and wanted to future proof for the one systainer3 I currently own...

 

[jimbo51]

It appears that these rails would require a large space above the systainer to allow full opening. Even then, it looks like it might not be very stable since only a small amount of rail would be engaged. I am thinking that I would make a slide out tray to place the systainer on while I removed the tool or other items. The sequence would be Pull out tray, remove systainer from rack and place on tray, open systainer and remove tool, close systainer, replace systainer in rack, push tray back in. I might make two trays so I would have a place to set the tool and not have to try to put the systainer back on the rails one handed.

$20 for a pair of plastic rails? Seems a bit expensive since one could buy a decent set of ball bearing slides for less. Once again paying for convenience.

 

[nclemmons]

Could you not use aluminum angle for something similar?  Not sure on cost but I know Lowes and HD stock 1 x 1 and 1.5 x 1.5 aluminum angle.  Might be less money.  You do give up the tilt-control that appears to be part of these guides from Tanos.

Thanks for sharing the details!

 

[TomaszNowak]

Here is the solution to your problems. Version V2 - just download and print. Regards
https://makerworld.com/en/models/93682#profileId-108331

 

[cred0021]

Here is the solution to your problems. Version V2 - just download and print. Regards
https://makerworld.com/en/models/93682#profileId-108331

Thanks for this link!  Ever since I bought a Bambu printer last year, I hate actually buying anything made of plastic, so much easier and cheaper to print things yourself...