Systainer3 (M 137) in SYSPORT 1000/2 ?

[htroberts]

I always regretted not buying several SYSPORT 1000/2s while they were available in the US, and recently picked up a few secondhand.

I don't seem to be able to adjust the distance between "drawers"  to fit the Systainer3 my CKS came in (apparently a SYS3 M137). Did the heights of available Systainers change at some point? and does the SYSPORT not have spacing for that height?

Thanks

 

[Ultimate Tools Marketing]

The heights of some Systainers changed with Gen 3!

 

[squall_line]

I always regretted not buying several SYSPORT 1000/2s while they were available in the US, and recently picked up a few secondhand.

I don't seem to be able to adjust the distance between "drawers"  to fit the Systainer3 my CKS came in (apparently a SYS3 M137). Did the heights of available Systainers change at some point? and does the SYSPORT not have spacing for that height?

Thanks

Almost every systainer height changed with Systainer3.
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...systainer3-and-t-loc-sizing-comparison-image/

 

[Coen]

Yes welcome to Sys3 where they completely abandoned the logical height system.

Previous Systainer were a multiple of 52.5mm. Sys3 works with multiples of 50... and then add 30.
Except for the "112" size that is 2x52,5 + 7mm feet = same height as previous generation Systainer size I / 1. And also except for the Organizer that is "89"..

So from 137 up... the next height from the previous system is the Sys-II / 2 with 164.5 (3x52,5 + 7mm feet).

But don't you love it how you can better rack it on rails, like for in vans? *Rails not sold separately in Festool's biggest market  [mad]

 

[Crazyraceguy]

^^^^^^ [big grin]^^^^^^

I would have bet money on that response, and it saved me from having to type it  [smile]

 

[htroberts]

Yes welcome to Sys3 where they completely abandoned the logical height system.

I’m very disappointed in this decision. Festool seems to be just acting like every other company.

 

[Coen]

Yes welcome to Sys3 where they completely abandoned the logical height system.

I’m very disappointed in this decision. Festool seems to be just acting like every other company.

You are not the only one that is disappointed. So far zero response from Festool on why they nixed their own height system. If they only added the rails and added the 3rd hinge etc. etc. while keeping the height the same, almost nobody would have cared (but the missing side slot labels are still an issue then) but now that they also messed with the heights...  [dead horse]

 

[jronman]

I think there is really only two boxes that were improved in the SYS3 version vs the T-loc version. The SYS3 Attic is now clear instead of frosted. The SYS3 Attic also autolatches. The attic bit trays seem improved but I haven't had experience with the old inserts. The organizers now have a translucent lid and a better grid system for the interior bins. Are there any other feature changes with SYS3 that were actually improvements? The front handle on the boxes are nice otherwise I can't really think of any improvements. The height differences are an obvious poor design change. The locking lid handle I find more annoying than useful in my opinion. The Bott rails take up space and you can't even open a lid all the way if the box is connected to a rail because of the lack of full/over extension. The extra widths of SYS3's is nice but Festool could have kept the same heights when more widths were offered. I will say a T-Loc III.5 and a IV.5 could be useful since the increment from III to IV and IV to V are double the regular increment at 105 mm instead of 52.5 mm. These sizes would still keep within the 52.5 mm sizing and potentially add more possible equal height stack combinations.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Yes welcome to Sys3 where they completely abandoned the logical height system.

I’m very disappointed in this decision. Festool seems to be just acting like every other company.

You are not the only one that is disappointed. So far zero response from Festool on why they nixed their own height system. If they only added the rails and added the 3rd hinge etc. etc. while keeping the height the same, almost nobody would have cared (but the missing side slot labels are still an issue then) but now that they also messed with the heights...  [dead horse]

While on holidays doing a ton of work I needed to pull out a number of infrequently used tools from the purpose built shelving I made 6 or so years ago to comfortably house all my systainers. Putting them back was a nightmare because of the different sizes now. I ended up having to make a map of the respective heights to work out how to get the all back in.

The other real nuisance is I liked to keep alike or related tools together, can't do that now unless I pull it all apart and rebuild it to cater for the newer sizes.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

While on holidays doing a ton of work I needed to pull out a number of infrequently used tools from the purpose built shelving I made 6 or so years ago to comfortably house all my systainers. Putting them back was a nightmare because of the different sizes now. I ended up having to make a map of the respective heights to work out how to get the all back in.

The other real nuisance is I liked to keep alike or related tools together, can't do that now unless I pull it all apart and rebuild it to cater for the newer sizes.

That is exactly my main complaint. I purposely built my storage system based on the specific sizes or combinations of them. I could get over the other bad decisions like the handle switch and lock, the front handle, etc. The fitment thing though, really burns me.