This is why a TSC55 and cordless MIDI would be awesome

[CeeJay]

Hi all. Brisbane had big floods again this week. We are ok but I spent the day helping out a neighbour.

I cut out all their plasterboard (I think you guys in NA call it drywall) below the flood line with my TS55 and MIDI. Trimmed out the edges with a Makita multi-tool.

Then ripped out their whole kitchen.

The power is out so they are running off a generator. The generator is running the fridge and some fans (to help dry out the timber frame and floor), so if I wanted to use the TS55/MIDI combo I had to get the guys breaking out the concrete for the destroyed fence to stop their combi-hammer (or vice versa) otherwise we would trip the genny.

Made me think about getting the TSC, but would need to be with a cordless dust extractor too as no way I’m cutting out all that contaminated plasterboard without DC.

Anyway job done - great to see so many people helping out. The whole local cricket team showed up to help, neighbours put on lunch. Good community spirit.

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[demographic]

One of my neices was flooded out over near Brisbane just recently.
I'm not precisely sure where about her home was as I live in the UK Though.
Poor thing had only just moved into the place the week before but at least it was a rental so she just moved back to my sisters house.

From what I was told the water was upto the bed on the first floor and she was rescued by a friend with a canoe.

 

[CeeJay]

One of my neices was flooded out over near Brisbane just recently.
I'm not precisely sure where about her home was as I live in the UK Though.
Poor thing had only just moved into the place the week before but at least it was a rental so she just moved back to my sisters house.

From what I was told the water was upto the bed on the first floor and she was rescued by a friend with a canoe.

I may have seen her on the news. There was an interview with a lady who had just moved into a new rental. She was in Auchenflower.

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[Cheese]

I know it's an expensive option but is a SYS-PowerStation available there? That'd be the easiest.

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[FestitaMakool]

Great job of you CeeJay!

Instead, why not a HKC? I really don’t consider (for hobby/home use) a TS
For mobile work, such as this.
A cordless Midi in addition .. well .. [smile]

 

[squall_line]

I feel like even though the HK/HKC can be used for plunge cutting, it's not nearly as well suited for the task of plunge-cutting wallboard like the TS/TSC is.  That's just me, though.

 

[FestitaMakool]

I feel like even though the HK/HKC can be used for plunge cutting, it's not nearly as well suited for the task of plunge-cutting wallboard like the TS/TSC is.  That's just me, though.

You could be right, I wouldn’t know as I steer away from plaster as long as I can.
I’d probably put a suitable blade on my Makita circular saw for that kind of cutting.
The risk of hitting nail, screws and many other things, 165mm blades are common and cheap.

 

[CeeJay]

Great job of you CeeJay!

Instead, why not a HKC? I really don’t consider (for hobby/home use) a TS
For mobile work, such as this.
A cordless Midi in addition .. well .. [smile]

Perhaps an HKC but I don’t have one. I considered my cordless AEG (I think Rigid brand in NA) but it’s not that great for plunge cuts and the dust collection is poor. So used the tools I have.

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[CeeJay]

I feel like even though the HK/HKC can be used for plunge cutting, it's not nearly as well suited for the task of plunge-cutting wallboard like the TS/TSC is.  That's just me, though.

You could be right, I wouldn’t know as I steer away from plaster as long as I can.
I’d probably put a suitable blade on my Makita circular saw for that kind of cutting.
The risk of hitting nail, screws and many other things, 165mm blades are common and cheap.

Yes that’s certainly a risk. I did a quick run over with a metal sensor before each cut and managed to avoid any screws or nails.

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[CeeJay]

I know it's an expensive option but is a SYS-PowerStation available there? That'd be the easiest.

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That would have been ideal. I don’t think it’s available in AU though - maybe due to the tools being 220V.

I do have an onboard power system for my truck on order with a 200ah lithium battery and a 2000W 220V sine wave inverter that would probably have done the job. But that won’t be installed until mid-April.

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[Bob D.]

If you just want something to cut the plasterboard loose maybe one of those cordless mini-saws like Milwaukee and the rest sell. They take a small, inexpensive blade and can be easily operated one-handed on a wall or ceiling. Some have dust collection capability.

Before I would subject my TSC55 to drywall gypsum I would choose one of these with dust collection included or figure out something on my own to control the dust.

Another tool easy to use overhead or on a wall is an oscillating multi-tool which can also make quick work of cuts like this.

There are many out there, here are a few;

-DEWALT DCS571B 20vMAX Atomic Brushless Cordless Saw
-Bosch Professional GKS 12 V-26 Cordless 85mm Circular Saw
-RIDGID(AEG) 18V Brushless Sub-Compact Cordless 3 inch Multi-Material Saw, R87547B
-Makita SH02R1 12V Max CXT Lithium-Ion Cordless Circular Saw Kit
-Rockwell RK3441K 4-1/2” Compact Circular Saw, 5 amps, 3500 rpm with Dust Port

 

[FestitaMakool]

Bob.D is right, I almost forgot these small circular saws in this instance.

I bought the small Makita saw as a part of a deal with a pre-owned 12V CXT square impact driver.
At first I thought it’d be used very little. But no, it has been very useful. Running at around 1500 rpm it’s not scary to hold with one hand. It’s in fact very comfortable and agile. It’s a tool that cuts as nice as a larger circular saw, but near the overall usefulness of a jigsaw - but leaves a straight nice finished cut. Kept into a straight edge it’s easy to plunge with as well.
I need to remove large air filled particle panels in one of my living rooms soon, and I’ll use just this to pre-cut the panels to manageable pieces before attempting to tear them off. Behind are panelled walls that I need to preserve, so I’ll set the depth just short of the thickness of the panels I’m removing.

 

[Coen]

What blade did you use in the TS 55?

Anyway; longer extension cord? Or was the mains power down for the whole street?

Battery vac eats through batteries.... expect 3.5 minutes per Ah for 18V.... and suction is already reduced before it cuts out. Then after that... the battery is too hot to charge 

Festool might not have that latter problem with the dual battery, but we'll see.

 

[CeeJay]

What blade did you use in the TS 55?

Anyway; longer extension cord? Or was the mains power down for the whole street?

I used a 24T Diablo blade in the TS. It’s got the anti-kickback teeth which along with the riving knife is great safety for plunge cuts.

Nearest mains power was 250m away so not in the realm of extension cords. The power was turned off by the utility for safety after the flood.

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[CeeJay]

Plus Diablo blade half the cost of Festool if it gets damaged.

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[woodbutcherbower]

Well done [member=72399]CeeJay[/member].

But I just felt the need to go on record and say that cricket is a rubbish, ludicrous game. Bails, overs, boundaries, runs, umpires, spinners, wickets ……. It lasts all day, they stop for lunch and then again for tea. It’s more interesting to sit and watch my toenails grow.

 

[Bob D.]

How do you avoid nails or screws? I realize it's possible to locate them but that
would be tedious on a large scale demo. Those hardened sheetrock screws would
do a number on a saw blade.

Is there a blade for the TSC55 from Festool (or anyone) that can handle the occasional nail?

 

[CeeJay]

I used a handheld detector to do a quick scan of each cut line which seemed to work. Luckily most of the board had been attached with glue not nails. There were three different types of wall, this is a fairly old house which had been extended at least 3 times I think.

The oldest section was hardwood studs and horsehair plasterboard. These had been attached with large nails which were easy to find. They were also pretty rusted mostly - I suspect this place had flooded before, although current owners have been there 20 years and this was their first flood.

The next oldest was asbestos board - I left this alone and just took off the skirting board. It should dry out nicely and be ok to keep.

The next era was plasterboard over either old timber siding (you can see in one pic) or over newer pine studs. This was glued on with no-nails so easy to cut safely. Just had to avoid the steel corner pieces, I did cut into one of these due to not paying attention. The blade cut right through, no damage.

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[CeeJay]

Well done [member=72399]CeeJay[/member].

But I just felt the need to go on record and say that cricket is a rubbish, ludicrous game. Bails, overs, boundaries, runs, umpires, spinners, wickets ……. It lasts all day, they stop for lunch and then again for tea. It’s more interesting to sit and watch my toenails grow.

I’ll be sure to tell the house owner - he’s the coach!!!

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[Coen]

The oldest section was hardwood studs and horsehair plasterboard. These had been attached with large nails which were easy to find. They were also pretty rusted mostly - I suspect this place had flooded before, although current owners have been there 20 years and this was their first flood.

Can just as well be condensation. Zero insulation easily means condensation on/in the wall. That type of wall would not be allowed here since euh... about 1970..