TI 15 impact woes

[Allubo]

Got a ti15 just over a month ago, anyone else got one, had problems with the disable feature so I can use the tool as a normal drill, kept stopping when drilling tiny holes and small screw driving in non impact mode, it doesn't even start on a 20mm forstner, sent it to festool for inspection and they said there's nothing wrong with it, got it back and it just won't drill holes, it cuts out on a 4.5mm lip and spur, my cxs is more powerful what should I do?
Any one else finding this???  [scared]

 

[jmbfestool]

Your my Hero!  

I keep on saying it and ill say it again DONT  BUY FESTOOL WHEN ITS FIRST RELEASED IN THE UK  wait till they have solved the faults and done some minor updates like they do after a few months

Sorry I cant help I decided not to buy it because didnt have much luck my self last time on a newly released tool.   Even though I did get good service to solve the faults over and over again its still annoying.

Im sure DeanSocial will love to comment  heehee [tongue]

JMB

 

[Holzhacker]

Interesting that this should come up. When I was in Germany recently I played with the T impact at a dealer. I tried it on impact and regular drilling and switching back and forth. I wasn't impressed. Switching back and forth between impact and drill seemed kind of clumsy, had a little lag between kicking back in and didn't seem quite right. At the time I didn't think too much of it. I've never been a fan of impact drivers anyway so I figured it was probably my own prejudice. It would seem now though that there may be a problem.
The dealer had a work station set up with the drills, lots of different bits and screw sizes. It was a very nice set-up to let people test out the drills.

 

[Allubo]

Do you think I should get it replaced for a t18, tts say I'm still within my rights to do so,
They say the machine is three in one but its useless in non impact mode, it can't drill holes and can't drive screws in non impact mode. I just wanted it to be a fault with my machine and not the entire model platform as it would have been a really useful tool for me, my main job is fine furniture but I do shop fitting and Joubert sometimes

 

[Alan m]

welcome to the fog.

send it back . get the t18 or wait till they make it work properly.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Get the T18 asap and buy an impact from Panasonic.

 

[Deansocial]

send it back again, they send my t18 back saying there was nothing wrong with it and my dealer just sent it again because he knew it wasnt right and it came back with new motor and electronics and othe bits n bobs.

Speaking of the t18mines on holiday over christmas at tts

 

[stairman]

so..  the T-Impact is selectable between drill and impact?
I simply can't WAIT until these are available here!  I suspect the impact will be the same as everywhere else in the world,  just a different charger...  am I correct?

I wasn't aware that it was selectable (or SUPPOSED to be...) between drill/impact.  that's just brilliant!

what's the deal with the T18's you guys are talking about here?

 

[jmbfestool]

so..  the T-Impact is selectable between drill and impact?
I simply can't WAIT until these are available here!  I suspect the impact will be the same as everywhere else in the world,  just a different charger...  am I correct?

I wasn't aware that it was selectable (or SUPPOSED to be...) between drill/impact.  that's just brilliant!

what's the deal with the T18's you guys are talking about here?

Yeah you have to stick a adapter to turn it into a drill turning the impact off.    The impact is smoother and quiter apparently

Jmb

 

[Kev]

I got the Ti15 a little while ago ... for the record, I'm only using it for impact - I have plenty of other drills .

Ironically I got the full set - but there's chucks in there the C15 can use!

Yesterday I drove in a heap of M8 90mm coach bolts with it. Flawless (but as I'd anticipated that from playing with it in the shop before I purchased it).

I would have probably been happy if I'd purchased to Ti15 as a dedicated impact driver package only.

My suggestion to anyone in the market for a Ti15 - buy the bare unit in a systainer and get a T15 or C15 full set to complement it.

I have seen pictures on eBay of a bare Ti15 in a special Sys3 - to pair two drills in one Systainer ... That'd be nice!

 

[jmbfestool]

I got the Ti15 a little while ago ... for the record, I'm only using it for impact - I have plenty of other drills .

Ironically I got the full set - but there's chucks in there the C15 can use!

Yesterday I drove in a heap of M8 90mm coach bolts with it. Flawless (but as I'd anticipated that from playing with it in the shop before I purchased it).

I would have probably been happy if I'd purchased to Ti15 as a dedicated impact driver package only.

My suggestion to anyone in the market for a Ti15 - buy the bare unit in a systainer and get a T15 or C15 full set to complement it.

I have seen pictures on eBay of a bare Ti15 in a special Sys3 - to pair two drills in one Systainer ... That'd be nice!

That's what I was going to do or will be doing once the Ti15 has been out for a while to make sure they got rid of an faults or if the Ti18 comes out cus I'm sure it will.

It's not a special T-loc3 (sys3) it's what festool sends the impact drill in when you buy it naked just a standard T-loc 3  so like you said you can put your other drill in with your impact drill.

Jmb

 

[hutch]

had the impact for a month wow cannot fault it in impact mode or drilling have drilled 80mm cable port holes in 25mm mdf no problems drilled heaps of 3mm holes

 

[ajones]

Hi Hutch  [welcome] to the forum

 

[Paddyfin1]

I've had the ti15 for a month now and it's great, I brought the bare carcass as it came with the tloc 3 which my c15 fits into very nicely and has made it so east to carry two dills
Been using the impact driver for the last two days building stud walls and it's a fab machine

 

[PreferrablyWood]

Nice to see some positive reviews on the Ti 15 impact as I've got thoughts about getting a lightly used C15 and combining that with a Ti 15 bare unit to get a capable setup with a bearable price tag...

Then I  will have 3 15 v compatible tools with 3 batteries the Carvex, Ti impact and C15, seems like a sweet little combo..

 

[Kev]

Nice to see some positive reviews on the Ti 15 impact as I've got thoughts about getting a lightly used C15 and combining that with a Ti 15 bare unit to get a capable setup with a bearable price tag...

Then I  will have 3 15 v compatible tools with 3 batteries the Carvex, Ti impact and C15, seems like a sweet little combo..

Let's not forget the the Syslite, TSC55, etc can all use 15V batteries too.

The Ti15 is certainly an "ok" impact and in context of the Festool drilling and cordless systems it actually shines, but in isolation it's not an excellent "drill" and by not having market topping performance and by not fulfilling a "one tool does it all" drilling plus impact capability, it's received criticism.

I like my Ti15, but I'd probably supplement it with a serious HD impact driver if I found I needed one - my guess is we'll see one soon from Festool as the North American market further influences Festool's direction and as the Protool merge settles down.

 

[tbellemare]

When I first got the TI 15, I wanted to see what was so wrong with it so I did a series of tests with live video. I then posted them here, in this thread.

In retrospect, the big mistake I made was using screw clamps to hold the work piece while using an impact driver. I should have had the ratchet clamps but all of mine were on other duty at the time...

Tom

EDIT:
Every operation in those videos was performed with the TI 15 using a Centrotec Chuck and no intermediate "impact defeater".

 

[RC]

I prefer my PDC18 for heavy duty stuff over the Ti15, but obviously its not an impact if you need to put lag bolts into beams or stuff.

What I don't like about the Ti15 is that while you can put a hex-bit directly into the motor shaft to minimize the drill's size you cannot disable the impact feature without the stupid adapter. This results in the hex bit getting jammed into the motor shaft when the impact kicks in. Found this out first had when I was doing some decking and had to swap back and forth between screwing and drilling the Kreg hidden deck screws.

Since the Kreg square-drive long hex bit doesn't fit the Centrotec chuck I stuck it directly into the motor shaft just like I do with hex bits on my CXS in a pinch and pressed the button ...and after swearing, some heavy duty pliers and half an hour or fiddling I got the bloody thing out of the shaft... 

Also the impact mode doesn't seem to have much of an impact in opening jammed bolts - tried to remove a pedal from a bike and after trying the the hex wrenches I own and not succeeding I slapped a hex bit into the Centrotec adapter of the Ti15 and tried to pry it loose with the impact mode. Failed. Eventually got it open with an 30cm extension pipe to a hex wrench to give me enough torque to get it moving.

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I'm circling back on the TI 15, I will once again say I think I'll likely get a bare model use it with the 15v 3.0 ah battery I got with the carvex, I'll use it as a pure impact driver and perhaps with some predrilling of bigger diameter holes, it's lighter than the 18v impacts and for my puposes will do just fine, comes in a systainer, I could chuck the PSC in the systainer with it to have a handy little kit for building a shed or a bench at the garden. That basic model with the drill adaptor chuck without battery sells for a quite reasonable price as well.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Also the impact mode doesn't seem to have much of an impact in opening jammed bolts - tried to remove a pedal from a bike and after trying the the hex wrenches I own and not succeeding I slapped a hex bit into the Centrotec adapter of the Ti15 and tried to pry it loose with the impact mode. Failed. Eventually got it open with an 30cm extension pipe to a hex wrench to give me enough torque to get it moving.

Though I'd love to bash the Ti15 at every opportunity, I don't think the Ti15 is to blame here. Those bolts on bicycles can become very tight, a common problem. I had to replace the chain rings from my bike a while ago, and I nor the bicycle repairman could get them loose, whatever we tried. I had to grind them away. A hand wrench with a long handle will give you more torque than most impact drivers can.

On bicycles it is always advised to grease up a bolt's thread before fastening, to make sure you can get them out again later.