Timtool inspired workbench/sysport

mohrab

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Many thanks to the Festool Owners Group, particularly Timtool Festool sysport workbench  where I picked up some worthwhile ideas.  First let me say that I have a small shop and have almost all my tools and benches on wheels so that I can move them around as a project demands.  I am more into power tools than hand tools and very much like the Roubo design but don’t really have room for a 7’ or 8’ bench - particularly if it isn’t easily moved.

Having built and used Joshua Finn's torsion box workbench (Fine Woodworking Tools & Shops 2008) which is two torsion boxes 9" wide on sawhorses, I discovered workbenches don't necessarily need to be deep!  I store the torsion boxes on end so they don’t take up a lot of room.  Use them now primarily to cut sheet goods.
http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/30117/a-workbench-anybody-can-build

My design objectives for this workbench/sysport were as follows:

provide additional bench space to my Festool MFT 1080 which is mounted on a     wheeled cabinet
use Timtool’s method of making a workbench double as a Sysport
make MDF top and front and back rails easily replaceable
(has internal frame - MDF top held with unglued dominoes)
provide material support to right side of my Kapex CMS
Bench size:  158 mm x 46 mm x 90 mm high (height same as Festool MFT/3)
attach workbench shelf to wall instead of workbench which will allow me to move the bench away from the wall if I want to work from both sides (no wheels this fixture)
provide t-tracks on front & back rails to accommodate  Festool clamps and jigs
provide storage and better access to Festool Systainers
(shelf false-wall has storage behind for sheet goods)
enchance my clamping capability by including an end-vise (Veritas Twin Screw)
Keep top flush with legs to improve clamping capability on the front
elected not to have a front vise.  Have ordered a Moxon portable vise  
http://www.benchcrafted.com/MoxonVise.html
first project using all metric
provide a sloping dust cover below top to direct dust and droppings to the back instead of the top shelf! (pull-out scrap bin under shelf helps to retrieve screws that drop thru!)
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It's a mixture of red & white oak due primarily to wood that I had on hand (white oak is from a tree on my property)

No plans - just an Excel worksheet with height and width dimensions   (“Made it all out my head and still had wood left over” - source unknown)

Right most drawer on top shelf is another FOG idea - cutlery type drawer

I am already finding what a pleasure it is to be able to remove a tool from it's systainer and then just slide the shelf back w/o having to find a place to set the systainer down, thereby taking away bench space.

Kreg fence is hinged with fastener on back to lift upright off bench when non it use.
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Excellent work and video.  Thanks for giving me some inspiration for my own small shop, and thanks to those whose work inspired you.  I'm constantly amazed (and humbled) at what Festoolians are doing.
 
Great workshop with lots of great ideas!  Very nicely done video too.
 
I enjoyed the video, and you have made a very good bench, but please...

...can you align the veritas vice handles?!!!
 
Very nice. I've used the Finn setup now for several years as well and am constantly impressed with how practical it is for my line of work (cabinetmaking). But I'd like a setup like this AND  a roubo...saving my pennies...
 
hehe, it's actually my video featuring my workbench and shop.
I am honored that my project has inspired someone to build his version, if i had the room i would probably also have added a bench vise to the side like you did.
one thing i would really suggest is to add slots on the face of the bench like i did, where you can insert pegs to clamp stuff vertically to your bench, it's one of the most practical aspects of mine.
 
Timtool,

I designed the center dividers to cover posts slabbed with 3/4" plywood on each side.  This will allow me to drill holes and install hold downs if I determine I need them.  As you can see I did slot the sides of the dividers to accomodate festool clamps.   I may also install a track to the top of the rails - because they are removable it will be easy to do.

I had been planning this bench for some time but was struggling with what to do about the front vise.  Your solution solved it for me.  I actually started building it after your first post on the FOG.  When I found your video on You Tube I thought I would just give you a plug and post a link - didn't expect it to appear as it
did.

Waiting to see what you do next?  Keep up the good work.

 
Very nice and functional workbench !

Does the grid of the torsion box not come in the way of the festool clamps?
 
The top isn't a true torsion box.  I only used three cross members (middle & ends) which is the reason I have the bench supported underneath below each upright.  Because it is relatively narrow I don't expect the top to sag any.  The Festool MFT's don't have cross members either.

The inside frame is tight when putting clamps in the first or last row of holes.  I may add a T-track to the top of the rails (as Timtool did) which will be easy to do since the rails are easily removed (after the T-track is removed).  As I mentioned earlier I also have an MFT 1080 as well.
 
mohrab said:
Bench size:  158 mm x 46 mm x 90 mm high (height same as Festool MFT/3)

You made it to fit the micro systainers?

[big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

But it's a very nice bench, I'll add some of your ideas to the plans for my own bench.
 
Nice job. Great way to store your systainers. Thanks for sharing. Yep all the stuff I build it just is in my head also and just pull it out as I go
 
Resurrecting a old thread but wondered how you mounted (if you did) your Moxon
 
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Sorry Suds - just now noticed your earlier post.  I just attached it with bar clamps.  I made the back section longer to accommodate the clamps.  However, after using it have decided I would like to have a small bench behind it.  Cut the top part but haven't settled on how to do the bottom.  Would like to just clamp the vise and bench down together.
 
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