TKS 80 vs Sawstop Jobsite Pro?

darita

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I have the SS JSPro and have had a couple of issues.  I'm wondering how the SS compares to the TKS for table and fence flatness.  I also am curious as to how accurate the sliding table cuts are?  SS tells me that the JS Pro is not meant to be as accurate as a cabinet saw, however I'm hoping that the TKS 80 is, in fact, meant to be.
 
darita said:
I have the SS JSPro and have had a couple of issues.  I'm wondering how the SS compares to the TKS for table and fence flatness.  I also am curious as to how accurate the sliding table cuts are?  SS tells me that the JS Pro is not meant to be as accurate as a cabinet saw, however I'm hoping that the TKS 80 is, in fact, meant to be.

You can't get a TKS 80 in the USA without importing it and likely losing the warranty (aside from voltage issues), so it may be a moot point?

There are plenty of posts on here about the TKS 80 and its accuracy out of the box vs. calibrated.
 
I’m curious what you don’t like about the jobsite pro because I don’t like mine much either. I was able to “fix” the terrible fence by attaching two thin pieces of felt with ca glue to the back side of the slide which eliminates almost all play when micro adjusting.
 
No problems with mine. Importing was not an issue other than expense. Voltage issues are NOT a problem.
 
TomK_2 said:
I’m curious what you don’t like about the jobsite pro because I don’t like mine much either. I was able to “fix” the terrible fence by attaching two thin pieces of felt with ca glue to the back side of the slide which eliminates almost all play when micro adjusting.
Well, I returned my first one because the table had a valley as you approach the throat plate.  Nothing I did could adjust that out.  Next, the throat plate was out of flat all over the place.  Third, the fence was not flat, however I was able to flatten it by sanding it on a granite slab.  The second saw was much flatter, but not dead flat and the throat plate was much flatter as well.  I was able to adjust the plate to an acceptable flatness with the table.  Now, I'm finding that when I adjust the blade 90* to the table and flip the saw to its stored position then set it upright again, the blade goes out of 90* every time.  I'm working with the stop adjustment trying to fix that issue.  It has surprised me that SS keeps saying the JSS Pro does not even have tolerances, so they've been little help.  Maybe I'm just asking too much of this saw.
 
Fair to say that no jobsite saws should be expected to perform like a quality cabinet saw (SS PCS is one of it). Job site tasks, after all, shouldn't need a high-end cabinet saw to perform for the desired results.

It surprised me to hear that the saw becomes out of square every time after it is put in storage. Something is wrong. I've used the SS Jobsite Saw only superficially, and don't know if it would go out of square like yours.
 
ChuckS said:
It surprised me to hear that the saw becomes out of square every time after it is put in storage. Something is wrong. I've used the SS Jobsite Saw only superficially, and don't know if it would go out of square like yours.

Mine also goes out of square after storage. I usually forget to check until after I've been using it for a while and wonder why my parts aren't 90°.
 
Joelm said:
ChuckS said:
It surprised me to hear that the saw becomes out of square every time after it is put in storage. Something is wrong. I've used the SS Jobsite Saw only superficially, and don't know if it would go out of square like yours.

Mine also goes out of square after storage. I usually forget to check until after I've been using it for a while and wonder why my parts aren't 90°.

Yes, this is exactly what was happening to me. I kept wondering what I was doing to make it do this.  Finally I discovered that the blade was changing angle.  This is a real problem.  I realize it's a jobsite saw and isn't made for perfect cuts, but why not?  Why not expect a saw to do what the company says it will do?  I'd, at the very least, expect the adjustments to remain where set.
 
I suggest that you both contact SawStop about your problem. It's unthinkable that any saw manufacturer would design a jobsite saw that needs its blade to be checked or adjusted for square every time after a set up in the storage/travel position.
 
ChuckS said:
I suggest that you both contact SawStop about your problem. It's unthinkable that any saw manufacturer would design a jobsite saw that needs its blade to be checked or adjusted for square every time after a set up in the storage/travel position.

Already done and SS really had no answer for me.  They simply said that they haven't had this issue come up before and to keep in mind that this is a jobsite saw and not a cabinet saw...disappointing.
I would think that Festool's approach to this saw is much different, but that's why I'm asking.  My assumption is that Festool developed their version as a precision woodworking machine no matter what it's used for, jobsite or not, which is what I had hoped SS had done.
 
"Disappointing" is an understatement for something like that to happen to a woodworker on a regular basis. It's like every time before you drive, you need to open the hood to check the motor oil.

It's one thing about difference in performance between a jobsite saw and a cabinet saw (as I said, you can't expect a jobsite saw to be like a cabinet saw), but it's another thing that the blade needs to be adjusted square every time after you fold the saw up.

I may have a chance in a week or two to have access to a SS JS PRO at a retail store. If I remember, I'll see whether the showroom saw has the same problem.
 
This is very interesting discussion. I too had to take back my first jobsite pro due to table being out of flat 0.030” . There is a tolerance for it and they had me take pics with feeler gauges to show it.

The new saw was flat enough but not perfect. I’m going to check the 90 degree storage thing later tonight.
 
So far I've tried adjusting the 90* with the fine adjust knob and the internal adjustment screw to no avail.  There has to be play in the mechanics somewhere.  There doesn't seem to be a real "stop" as with other saws.
 
darita said:
So far I've tried adjusting the 90* with the fine adjust knob and the internal adjustment screw to no avail.  There has to be play in the mechanics somewhere.  There doesn't seem to be a real "stop" as with other saws.

Trunnion mounts loose?
 
I just pulled out my saw from storage and checked the angle of the blade. It was slightly off of 90°. I'm pretty sure I set it before putting it away last time.
 
Joelm said:
I just pulled out my saw from storage and checked the angle of the blade. It was slightly off of 90°. I'm pretty sure I set it before putting it away last time.

Please do the check and see if simply putting the away, then bringing it back out causes the adjustment to go out.  Mine varies from a few clicks on the fine adjust knob, to several clicks.  This may be an issue with all or most of these.  Keep in mind, a digital angle finder doesn't always display the difference. A physical square is needed to see the problem.
I'm wondering if the TKS 80 has the same issue, as it appears the works are the same as the JSS Pro.
 
darita said:
Joelm said:
I just pulled out my saw from storage and checked the angle of the blade. It was slightly off of 90°. I'm pretty sure I set it before putting it away last time.

Please do the check and see if simply putting the away, then bringing it back out causes the adjustment to go out.  Mine varies from a few clicks on the fine adjust knob, to several clicks.  This may be an issue with all or most of these.  Keep in mind, a digital angle finder doesn't always display the difference. A physical square is needed to see the problem.
I'm wondering if the TKS 80 has the same issue, as it appears the works are the same as the JSS Pro.

I played a bit with it today and still got out of square results. I used a Baell tilt box, machinist square and woodpeckers square. I was reading 2.5° difference.  I'm thinking it has more to do with raising and lowering the blade several times and not storing it.
 
Joelm said:
Snip.I'm thinking it has more to do with raising and lowering the blade several times and not storing it.
If, a big if, of course, this is found to be the case. it is even worse, because that means every time you change the height to make a cut on a stock of different thickness, the angle may be out.
 
rocky100370 said:
No problems with mine. Importing was not an issue other than expense. Voltage issues are NOT a problem.

Did you order through a EU/GB dealer? As far as voltage goes, what modifications did you have to perform? I really like how this saw works.
 
HowardH said:
rocky100370 said:
No problems with mine. Importing was not an issue other than expense. Voltage issues are NOT a problem.

Did you order through a EU/GB dealer? As far as voltage goes, what modifications did you have to perform? I really like how this saw works.

Please do not ruin it for everyone and post the vendor the saw was purchased from. The EU/GB dealer will be pinged for it by Festool and that will affect all of those (including me) who import tools not sold here.
 
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