TS55 garage and hardwood guessing

[sgryd]

Inspired by this post: TS55-garage
I decided to build a garage for my TS55. I have no clue about the wood I used. Got it from my neighbor who saved it from being trashed.

I'm not used to hardwood other than oak. Does anyone know what this is? It's really heavy, much heavier than our European oak.

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//Michael

 

[Timtool]

Padouk or Afromosia is my guess,

Nice garage btw, not sure how it works but it looks nice!

 

[sgryd]

Thanks.
Afrormosia seems like a good guess to me. End grain looks like the pictures hera:
Afrormosia
Does one usually use Afromosia for decking? This is what the wood I got was used for in its former life.

The garage lets the saw sit on the guide rail without falling off when I raise it.

 

[Stone Message]

Hello Everyone

I do not wish to appear negative but....

I understand the nifty idea of the garage but I would not be happy having the extra weight operating on the hinge and clamping element of the MFT3 guide rail. They can be knocked out of square and with all that weight it may become an issue. Why not put the 'garage' just under the table top?

Peter

 

[sgryd]

Thanks Peter.
I understand your concern, as it's mine as well. But it's so incredibly convenient to park the saw on the guide rail in between cuts, more so with the hose coming from above. It won't be for permanent storage, but only for in between cuts. I'm willing to take the risk and I'm watching the rail to see that it holds up its squareness.

I also was keen to do something with the wood I got. It turned out to be very nice to work with. Very hard, yet quite millable and easy to avoid tear out.

 

[Tinker]

Hello Everyone

I do not wish to appear negative but....

I understand the nifty idea of the garage but I would not be happy having the extra weight operating on the hinge and clamping element of the MFT3 guide rail. They can be knocked out of square and with all that weight it may become an issue. Why not put the 'garage' just under the table top?

Peter

+1

I wood think that could be a problem when finishing cuts that use nearly the full width of the table.  What do you do when bringing the guide rail back down only to have the saw blade contact the wood before it (the guide rail) has leveled out for the next cut.

For short guys like me with our chins precariously close to our ankles, it is tough enough to reach across to make a cut, it sure would be mighty tricky to figure what to do if the scenario i described were to become actuality.  I, personally like to have my garage at the end of the MFT close to where i will make start of next cut. 

Incidently, you did do a very nice job on your garage.  I have no clue as to what wood, but a real nice job. Great idea.  [thumbs up]
Tinker

 

[Brice Burrell]

+1

I wood think that could be a problem when finishing cuts that use nearly the full width of the table.  What do you do when bringing the guide rail back down only to have the saw blade contact the wood before it (the guide rail) has leveled out for the next cut.

For short guys like me with our chins precariously close to our ankles, it is tough enough to reach across to make a cut, it sure would be mighty tricky to figure what to do if the scenario i described were to become actuality.  I, personally like to have my garage at the end of the MFT close to where i will make start of next cut. 

Incidently, you did do a very nice job on your garage.  I have no clue as to what wood, but a real nice job. Great idea.  [thumbs up]
Tinker

Tinker, you must need another cup of coffee.  The blade retracts into the saw so it won't hit a wide workpiece as you drop the rail/saw down. 

BTW, you should try some lifts in your shoes to help reach across the MFT. [poke] [big grin] [big grin]

 

[greg mann]

Brice beat me to it, Tinker. As far as wear and tear go there are a number of members who have fashioned garages like this. Maybe one would like to comment whether they have run into any issues over time. My guess is none.

I'm voting for Ipe' on the wood. Looks like some I have in my odds and ends after putting in my deck last year. Very heavy and very hard.

 

[Tinker]

+1

I wood think that could be a problem when finishing cuts that use nearly the full width of the table.  What do you do when bringing the guide rail back down only to have the saw blade contact the wood before it (the guide rail) has leveled out for the next cut.

For short guys like me with our chins precariously close to our ankles, it is tough enough to reach across to make a cut, it sure would be mighty tricky to figure what to do if the scenario i described were to become actuality.  I, personally like to have my garage at the end of the MFT close to where i will make start of next cut. 

Incidently, you did do a very nice job on your garage.  I have no clue as to what wood, but a real nice job. Great idea.  [thumbs up]
Tinker

Tinker, you must need another cup of coffee.  The blade retracts into the saw so it won't hit a wide workpiece as you drop the rail/saw down. 

BTW, you should try some lifts in your shoes to help reach across the MFT. [poke] [big grin] [big grin]

[doh]
Tinker

 

[fastbike]

Ipe is my vote as well. Unless the piece is fairly old, it's not red enough to be padauk.

Brice beat me to it, Tinker. As far as wear and tear go there are a number of members who have fashioned garages like this. Maybe one would like to comment whether they have run into any issues over time. My guess is none.

I'm voting for Ipe' on the wood. Looks like some I have in my odds and ends after putting in my deck last year. Very heavy and very hard.

 

[sgryd]

Yes, Ipe seems likely. I'll give the end grain a closer look tomorrow.

 

[Timtool]

Yup, now that it was mentioned it seems more like Ipe, looks somewhat like Afrormosia but the latter one is not use commonly for decking, rather for outdoor constructions!

 

[Tinker]

Brice beat me to it, Tinker. As far as wear and tear go there are a number of members who have fashioned garages like this. Maybe one would like to comment whether they have run into any issues over time. My guess is none.

I'm voting for Ipe' on the wood. Looks like some I have in my odds and ends after putting in my deck last year. Very heavy and very hard.

Come on now, Greg, was it the arguement about the blade or about being asier for me to reach under the table than to reach over? [wink]

I just noticed a little further down on the page that there was a discussion about this very same (type) garage idea back in 2010.  I somehow missed that one.  All in all in all, it seems a lot of interest in doing this.  Also some concerns were discussed.  Very interesting.  i will have to dig out my high boots (high at the bottoms  ;D) and see if i can work out something of the same idea. there was one responder, Vulcan, who had come up with a very simple arrangement with very little bulk.  Another WW'er came up with putting a bumper at the end of the guide rail to keep it from overbalancing. Another idea was to extend the far end of the guide rail way beyond the edge of the table. Now that would be rediculous for me.  My high boots can barely get my arms to reach the other side of the table as it is.  [dead horse]
Tinker

 

[Tinker]

BTW: I forgot to mention.  Of all the garages have seen between the two discussions, I like the looks of sgryd's garage the best.  It has a real cool look about it.  Very simple, streamlined and practical (I think after looking all of them over more closely.)
Tinker

 

[sgryd]

Thanks Tinker  [embarassed]

 

[sgryd]

Wow, this site Wood Database states that 1 cubic meter of Ipe weighs 1,175 kg. Could that be true? It would sink in water then, won't it?

//Michael

 

[fastbike]

Upper end specific gravity for ipe is ~1.17, so yes it will sink. It is incredibly heavy compared to most other hardwoods.

FWIW, I also think your "garage" design is very elegant.

 

[moody]

I did some work in Merbau week before christmas and it looked very similar to the wood you are showing.

 

[sgryd]

Thanks. Another possible candidate. Specific weight for Merbau is 0.8. I'll check tomorrow if my wood floats.
Wood Database

Edit.
Wood Database states:
"Glues and finishes well, though it can be difficult to saw due to gumming and dulling of teeth."

My wood definitely did not gum the teeth. I ripped a less than 1 mm thick 50 mm wide veneer as a test on the bandsaw. No problems at all.