TSC 55 In CMS module - does it fit?

[FestitaMakool]

Hi,
I’ve had a question regarding if the cordless TSC 55 fits in the TS 55 CMS module.
Have anyone tried that does have both the module and saw?

Thanks in advance  [smile]

 

[wpz]

Hi [member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

Never mind if it fits or not, how will you switch it on and off?!? [blink]
Especially in an emergency stop type situation, for instance if your shirtsleeve gets cought in the blade  [scared]

I know it's not an answer to your question, but if you would put such a thing together it would be just about the opposite of the sawstop tablesaw: a keeps-on-going-no-matter-how-many-fingers-you-put-in saw.
And let's face it: FestitaMakool is a much cooler nickname than STUMPY.
Sorry, just sounds like a really dangerous idea to me.

Anyway, I think one of the batteries might also interfere with the depth adjustment contraption of the CMS.

Stay safe,
wpz

 

[FestitaMakool]

I totally agree with you.
And it’s not for my use either. I would never do it unless I did modify the saw to accept a remote on/off switch.
One could use a emergency pin lock over the trigger that would instantly release the trigger, by pulling a wire attached to a big red knob on top or side of the table. But then you have to know how and what to do to make it right, and just as safe as an electric switch.

Festool actually provides a trigger lock for Carvex. I won’t use it - I have looked into soldering on wires for a remote trigger for that kind of use. I have found a small weather sealed flange with socket and plug that might work on a D handle Carvex (There’s a mechanical switch on the D handle Carvex, but have yet to test the wiring) But, better put a wired only machine in a module connected to a electromagnetic switch/breaker.  [smile]

Edit: Sorry, I got interrupted in writing.
I think you are right about physical differences on the two saws. And it can very well be by means.

Otherwise, I really appreciate your effort to have me and my fingers safe - “Stumpy” sounds really bad in your context  [scared]
And I Really regret my user name here.. it’s too long!... [blink].. now suddenly Stumpy is out of the question  [big grin]
You picked the right one [wink]

Thanks!

 

[Hawkeye0001]

The TSC body parts don't have the necessary attachments for use with the CMS (the depth adjustment contraption, riving knife lock) - I wonder if they knew someone would try... [big grin]

Haven't checked if (theoretically) the baseplate brackets would still fit.

 

[FestitaMakool]

Haha, I bet Festool new - there’s always gonna be someone that have to try  [big grin]

I do sometimes, but thankfully I do it (mostly) in a safety manner - factory functionality and as close to factory looks as well. To many times I’m thinking - Can I improve it?
It’s soo good I’m not an engineer with enough money to have a mini woodshop AND a metal workshop.. I would probably live there, in the shop.. [scared]

But it’s fun and keeps the head busy and healthy  [big grin]

Thanks for the info guys! Really appreciated.

 

[jeh]

I have to ask why you would want to put it in there. Just buy one of the many portable tablesaws which will easily outperform the CMS rig and you do not have to remove or insert the saw when you want to use it. I have the DeWalt 60V FlexVolt which has geared fence and is more than adequate when I am not in shop, but it also would work fine in the shop if it was my only saw.

There are plenty of crap portable saws to avoid.

 

[sancho57]

I would think no it wont fit unless its foot print is exactly like the TS 55.

 

[Coen]

Who knows... maybe someone trying was the start of the demise of the CMS...  [unsure]

 

[wpz]

Who knows... maybe someone trying was the start of the demise of the CMS...  [unsure]

As far as I understand, the reason the CMS is not available in the EU anymore is because a new European union safety legislation was passed: every new power tool has to have a safety built in, that if the power to the tool is cut (e.g. unplug the tool, breaker jumps, power is switched off) and you keep the trigger pressed and the power is turned back on, the tool should not start.

So let's say you have a CMS saw and the fuse blows in the fusebox, you leave the room to go to the fusebox and forget to switch the machine off.
While your on your way to the fusebox, someone else comes into the room and and starts to feel if the blade is still sharp and you switch the fuse back on, the blade starts spinning and you'll hear a screatching sound (no, it's not the saw making that noise, it'll be STUMPY, as he's known from then on [crying])

Anyway, because the machines you put in to the CMS (TS saws, routers, jigsaws) rely on blocking the power switch on the machine itself and turning them on and off by switching the power of the outlet they are plugged into (that switchbox on the front of the CMS) the whole CMS system is not working anymore: every time you switch off, the machine in the CMS will not start anymore.

I'm curious to see if Festool will come up with some kind of solution and bring out a new CMS. Surely there must be some possibility to fix this, electronicly or otherwise.
Also, did anyone in the European Union buy a new TS55 or 75; OF 1010, 1400 or 2200; or a carvex or trion recently?
Can you test that if you block the trigger and unplug and replug the machine, it restarts or not? (be very careful if you try this!)

A very old Metabo angle grinder I used to have already had this safety feature, but I don't think any of my festools do, I'll check tomorrow.

wpz

 

[Svar]

... every new power tool has to have a safety built in, that if the power to the tool is cut (e.g. unplug the tool, breaker jumps, power is switched off) and you keep the trigger pressed and the power is turned back on, the tool should not start.

CMS switch is equipped with this exact safety feature.

 

[wpz]

CMS switch is equipped with this exact safety feature.

Indeed, this is to prevent the horrible scenario I was describing before, but the new EU law now wants it for every powertool (also handheld).
So all the machines that fit in the CMS that can also be used as a handheld powertool should have this safety and then you cannot switch them on and off with the CMS switch because the safety inside the machine itself will kick in.

wpz