Using an RO 125 with a non Festool vacuum

[wptski]

Looking at this old thread: Vacuum Adapter it mentions using a Festool #452879 instead of the more expensive #452878.  In this picture of the 452879 the tool end looks different than the 452878.

The thread OP claims it fits all Festool tools but I'm not really sure.  Using a few turns of painter's tape so I can use an twin HEPA Pullman-Holt variable speed which is also German made, I think.  I'll have to deal with the other end at the vacuum I'm sure.

 

[Bohdan]

The green hose and fittings are antistatic so if you are using them it will prevent a buildup of static electricity on your tool and then a painfull discharge into you. Especially important if you are moving a lot of dust in a dry atmosphere.

BTW this will only work if your hose is connected to an earthed inlet on your vac. If you vac doesn't have an earthed inlet you can just jam a loose earthed wire between the vac inlet and the hose.

Both of the hoses fit over a 27mm port and into a 36mm dust port.

 

[Peter_C]

I use a non anti-static Bosch hose with no issues. Haven't started a fire yet! No shocks either. I do have a ground set up on my vac, as in a copper wire with a nut on the end that touches the ground. One of my shop vacs has a Dust Deputy on it and the other is a small Ridgid vac that is actually very powerful. With dust bags inside it works well enough. At this point I don't want to spend the money on a Festool vac as I already own the other two.

 

[wptski]

So the antistatic hoses have a wire running through them and therefore heavier like a much larger dust collection systems?

 

[Bohdan]

So the antistatic hoses have a wire running through them and therefore heavier like a much larger dust collection systems?

No the antistatic hoses and fittings are made of an electrically conducting material (usually achieved by adding carbon black to the mixture).

 

[wptski]

No the antistatic hoses and fittings are made of an electrically conducting material (usually achieved by adding carbon black to the mixture).

Is the whole antistatic Festool dust collector made of the same material or is the inlet grounded?

 

[AlexThePalex]

Is the whole antistatic Festool dust collector made of the same material or is the inlet grounded?

No, the whole dust collector is not made of the same material. Don't know how they do it exactly, but the static electricity is conducted to the ground wire of the power cord anyway,

In this picture of the 452879 the tool end looks different than the 452878.

Yes it looks indeed different and that's because they supplied the wrong picture for the grey hose. The green hose shows the correct thickness and tool end for the 27 mm hose. The picture of the grey hose is that of the 36 mm version. Just make sure that the hose you get is 27 mm for use with the sander.

Festool UK shows the correct hose here. Note that this one is 5 meters long which is longer than the power cord supplied with the sander. The hose that is made to fit precisely is the 3,5 meter long hose.

 

[wptski]

Yes it looks indeed different and that's because they supplied the wrong picture for the grey hose. The green hose shows the correct thickness and tool end for the 27 mm hose. The picture of the grey hose is that of the 36 mm version. Just make sure that the hose you get is 27 mm for use with the sander.

Festool UK shows the correct hose here. Note that this one is 5 meters long which is longer than the power cord supplied with the sander. The hose that is made to fit precisely is the 3,5 meter long hose.

Well, the same picture is used here at the Festool USA site and does have the correct sizes but comparing the size from one end to the other, it sure looks wrong.  I placed an order last night for one.  My Pullman-Holt vacuum has an odd connection using a push/twist with locking tangs connection on the OD with the ID being a bit over 2 1/4".  I may have to get some PVC pipe, adapters, etc. and fashion my own vacuum adapter as I have a 10" metal lathe.

They do have a shorter version here but my cord is 16' anyway.

Look at the pictures of the different sizes of antistatic hoses on this page.  Some of the end to end comparisons don't look right either.

 

[digger]

What is an earthed inlet ? Never heard that term used before.  Thanks

 

[Bohdan]

What is an earthed inlet ? Never heard that term used before.  Thanks

An earthed inlet is an antistatic hose connection on the vac which is internally connected to the earth wire of the power cord and hence to the earth in your electrical power system.

 

[wptski]

What is an earthed inlet ? Never heard that term used before.  Thanks

In the USA, we'd call that a grounded inlet.

 

[GregBradley]

Yes it looks indeed different and that's because they supplied the wrong picture for the grey hose. The green hose shows the correct thickness and tool end for the 27 mm hose. The picture of the grey hose is that of the 36 mm version. Just make sure that the hose you get is 27 mm for use with the sander.

Festool UK shows the correct hose here. Note that this one is 5 meters long which is longer than the power cord supplied with the sander. The hose that is made to fit precisely is the 3,5 meter long hose.

Well, the same picture is used here at the Festool USA site and does have the correct sizes but comparing the size from one end to the other, it sure looks wrong.  I placed an order last night for one.  My Pullman-Holt vacuum has an odd connection using a push/twist with locking tangs connection on the OD with the ID being a bit over 2 1/4".  I may have to get some PVC pipe, adapters, etc. and fashion my own vacuum adapter as I have a 10" metal lathe.

They do have a shorter version here but my cord is 16' anyway.

Look at the pictures of the different sizes of antistatic hoses on this page.  Some of the end to end comparisons don't look right either.

Both pictures of 27mm hoses show the incorrect end.
Both pictures of 36mm hoses are correct as far as the ends.
One of the 50mm hoses is correct, one is wrong.

All the incorrect pictures show the same hose with a 36mm tool end. They also don't show different lengths in the pictures which could easily explained if they stated that. However, people ARE looking for the ends to match what they need just as you are.

Pretty darn sloppy.

BTW, the Bosch VAC005 will also work for your uses. However, most of the pictures online for it are incorrect also.

 

[wptski]

BTW, the Bosch VAC005 will also work for your uses. However, most of the pictures online for it are incorrect also.

I don't think so as it's 35mm and I need a 27mm.

 

[rvieceli]

BTW, the Bosch VAC005 will also work for your uses. However, most of the pictures online for it are incorrect also.

I don't think so as it's 35mm and I need a 27mm.

Actually the Bosch VAC005 will work just fine for your application fit wise. the vac end fits the standard shop vac port (but not the giant one) and the Festool CT s and the tool end will fit the 27mm opening on most tools. If you want the Bosch to fit over the outside of the 36mm tool port like on the router and saws then you need to purchase the Festool 36mm reducing adapter #487721
http://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com/antistatic-reducing-sleeves/p/487721/

You can then replace the Bosch tool end adapter with this one, but then it won't fit the 27mm anymore.

Ron

 

[GregBradley]

BTW, the Bosch VAC005 will also work for your uses. However, most of the pictures online for it are incorrect also.

I don't think so as it's 35mm and I need a 27mm.

It is a 35mm hose with the same end that is on a Festool 27mm hose. The end is not quite as flexible as the Festool hoses so it won't last as long. It is half to one third the price. I find them wonderful for the price even in fairly heavy commercial shop use. Brings more suction to the tool which is great for some tools, not so much for the smaller sanders though.

 

[wptski]

It is a 35mm hose with the same end that is on a Festool 27mm hose. The end is not quite as flexible as the Festool hoses so it won't last as long. It is half to one third the price. I find them wonderful for the price even in fairly heavy commercial shop use. Brings more suction to the tool which is great for some tools, not so much for the smaller sanders though.

Why don't they list this stuff by hose diameter and the two end sizes instead of just one?  I Google'd one where it just stated 35mm with a 2 1/4" end which isn't correct then.  The tool end is softer rubber or a harder material?

 

[rvieceli]

Just for you [member=60643]wptski[/member]

Festool 27mm hose 27mm tool end and Bosch tool end 35mm hose 27mm tool (Bosch is loose)

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Same from the ends. Both fit inside a 36mm dust port or a 27mm dust port fits inside the end

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Bosch hose with 36mm Festool end. Inside of the end fits over a 36mm dust port

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Vac end of the stock Bosch hose

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Stock Bosch hose end in Festool CT22

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This Bosch hose is not anti-static, but it is currently $39.95 at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-VAC005-...UTF8&qid=1457472661&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=bch+vac005

Both tool end adapters seem to be made out of similar material but the Festool one is just slightly more flexible.

 

[wptski]

Just for you [member=60643]wptski[/member]

Festool 27mm hose 27mm tool end and Bosch tool end 35mm hose 27mm tool (Bosch is loose)

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Same from the ends. Both fit inside a 36mm dust port or a 27mm dust port fits inside the end

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Bosch hose with 36mm Festool end. Inside of the end fits over a 36mm dust port

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Vac end of the stock Bosch hose

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Stock Bosch hose end in Festool CT22

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This Bosch hose is not anti-static, but it is currently $39.95 at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-VAC005-...UTF8&qid=1457472661&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=bch+vac005

Both tool end adapters seem to be made out of similar material but the Festool one is just slightly more flexible.

Thanks! [big grin]

 

[wptski]

Funny there is one thing Festool doesn't list.  A non antistatic 27mm replacement end.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Funny there is one thing Festool doesn't list.  A non antistatic 27mm replacement end.

Because they don't exist, the end is the same for the different types of hoses.