What Festool accessory or tool would you not purchase?

[woodrat]

I am always reading about what everyone wants or buys.  Is there any Festool item you would not care to purchase with your own money (getting as a gift is another matter)?

I am relatively new to Festool, but I can not think of one item I would not spend my money on.

Just for fun,

Jeff

 

[Warrior]

1. the Panther saw blades are best left on the shelf.
2. The FS-KS (I think) it is the adjustable angle guide for the guide rails.
3. Both the trim and cross stops for the Domino are a waste of time.
4. IMO the hose garage is a waste of space.

 

[Eli]

1. the Panther saw blades are best left on the shelf.
2. The FS-KS (I think) it is the adjustable angle guide for the guide rails.
3. Both the trim and cross stops for the Domino are a waste of time.
4. IMO the hose garage is a waste of space.

1.Agree
2.Agree, although I've used it once.
3.I like both, they came as a set, I use them both.
4.I like it. I'd buy it again.

 

[jonny round boy]

Unless I really, REALLY needed it, I wouldn't buy any Festool that didn't have a plug-it. Just too much hassle, even with the conversion kit.

An good example would be the planers - I have a Bosch planer that I'm quite happy with, even though I don't use it much now. I think that by the time that NEEDS replacing, the Festool planers would have been updated.

I agree about the Panther blades, though I've never used one - The 48T and 28T blades are more than capable of any cutting I've had to do so far, without the added expense of the panther.

 

[Eli]

I've used the Panther. It's okay if you don't mind a little bit of saw markage. I didn't notice that it ripped all that much faster than standard blades though.

Do you really REALLY need the Kapex? or the Belt sander?

 

[jonny round boy]

Do you really REALLY need the Kapex?

Oh, god yes!!!

 

[Dan Clark]

Do you really REALLY need the Kapex?

Oh, god yes!!!

But, but, but...  I doesn't have a Plug-It!.  Isn't it too much hassle to use!?! ??? 8)

Dan.

 

[jonny round boy]

Do you really REALLY need the Kapex?

Oh, god yes!!!

But, but, but...  I doesn't have a Plug-It!.  Isn't it too much hassle to use!?! ??? 8)

Dan.

No, that's different!!! It's something that's going to be semi-permanently set up on site, it's not something that you're going to be wanting to swap leads on...

After all,it's not exactly a 'hand-held' machine...

 

[Dan Clark]

Jonny,

OK, good!   I'm happy that we got that squared away.   I wouldn't want to call the Kapex Removal Squad (KRS) to help you out!

Dan.

p.s. KRS exists to help Festool Kapex users who are having emotional distress caused by the use of a Kapex without a Plug-It!

p.p.s KRS transfers removed Kapexes to Festool users with thicker skins!

p.p.p.s If you have any more difficulties, please contact me immediately and I'll contact the KRS team leader. 

p.p.p.p.s I'll give you one guess as to the identity of said KRS team Leader!   ;D

 

[Fred West]

Dan, Thank you for helping out but I am perfectly capable of declaring myself the President of the KRS Removal Team. ;D Fred

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Personally, I don't have much use for the screwdrivers/drills until they work with square drive screws.

Not much use for a jigsaw either.  Nothing to do with Festool, just the type of work I do doesn't call for one.  Same for the hand planer, though I would probably be all over it if I installed lots of doors.

I'm looking forward to the new trim router.  That's something I could really use, but whats currently on the US market is pretty sad.

 

[Hergy]

FS-KS was a waste of money for me. If accuracy could be calibrated and remain so, it would be OK. Appears that if you needed to make a weird angle cut, that it may be of some help. Unfortunately, I don't have this situation come up often enough to justify. I think the Bosch jig saws are very comparable to the Festools' and about 1/2 the price. For the limited use I have for a jigsaw, the Bosch 1590 is more than adequate for me. Festool blades are usable in Bosch, if in fact they are that much superior to Bosch blades. No interest in handplaner or dovetail jig. IMHO Leigh DT jigs are hard to beat. I guess the bottom line is that it really depends a lot on the type of work you do if certain tools will work for you. My saw, MFT and Domino would be very difficult for me to give up.

 

[Eli]

Do you really REALLY need the Kapex?

Oh, god yes!!!

But, but, but...  I doesn't have a Plug-It!.  Isn't it too much hassle to use!?! ??? 8)

Dan.

No, that's different!!! It's something that's going to be semi-permanently set up on site, it's not something that you're going to be wanting to swap leads on...

After all,it's not exactly a 'hand-held' machine...

Nevertheless, I DO wish it had a plug-it. Although it is set up in one spot generally, I only have one extractor at the moment, so when you move that from tool to tool, you have to plug in 'downstairs', instead of connecting the plug-it vac hose all at once 'up top'. No need for the KRS though. You guys must all be great electricians, to be ready to install 240/50 in your shops just to run the Kapex.

 

[brandon.nickel]

Eli,

The 240V won't be that hard to come by, but unless you're going to figure out some way to slow down the generating turbines to 3000RPM, you're not going to get 50Hz any time soon (in the US).  I suppose you could always get yourself a battery bank and a big inverter....

I wonder how the Kapex would handle 60Hz?  Has anyone tried this?  Does it just increase the speed by 20%?

-Brandon

 

[Eli]

I think trying it without a transformer would release the magic smoke from the box (magic because after it comes out, nothing ever works again)

 

[jonny round boy]

I'm not an electrician, and this is just a guess, but here goes anyway:

I don't think that the frequency difference would have much of an effect, at least on the speed, since the speed control of most Festools is electronic. The speed will be determined by a timing chip in the circuitry rather than the frequency of the supply.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree? ???

 

[Forrest Anderson]

Remember that the Kapex (and a lot of other power tools aimed at the trade) is available in the UK in two voltage versions. There is the 230V 50Hz version (since that is the nominal domestic supply, although in practice it is usually closer to 240V), and there is the 110V version (since construction sites usually use this voltage via generators or step-down 230V to 110V transformers).

Part numbers are:

KS 120 EB Set GB 240V. Order number: 561291 - Official price 1374.00 GBP plus VAT, street price approx 1291 GBP incl VAT
KS 120 EB Set GB 110V. Order number: 561292 - Official price 1374.00 GBP plus VAT, street price approx 1291 GBP incl VAT
Includes: HW universal saw blade W60, bevel, workpiece clamp, multifunction table MFT 800 Basic, clamping set, 2 x table extension, 2 x crown moulding stop, operation tool

KS 120 EB GB 240V. Order number: 561285 - Official price 836.00 GBP plus VAT, street price approx 768 GBP incl VAT
KS 120 EB GB 110V. Order number: 561286 - Official price 836.00 GBP plus VAT, street price approx 768 GBP incl VAT 
Includes: HW universal saw blade W60, bevel, workpiece clamp, operation tool

Forrest

 

[mastercabman]

the trion ,jigsaw,is the tool that i least like out of all the festool i use.i like the bosch 1587 much better.
the trion doesn't have the dust blower and variable speed on the trigger.what i do like about it is that the trion is smaller and still powerfull.dust extraction is also good.not a bad saw but not the best i ever use.

 

[Dave Rudy]

FS-KS is all I can think of.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Unless I really, REALLY needed it, I wouldn't buy any Festool that didn't have a plug-it. Just too much hassle, even with the conversion kit.

Jonny,

I beg to disagree.  The Deltex 93 would be a better tool if redesigned to include Plug-It, a smaller, shorter motor, a swivel hose fitting, tachometer speed control, ... BUT even lacking those improvements, it is an excellent tool and to my knowledge, there is no true subsitute or competition to it.

Dave R.