What in the world am i doing wrong?

[rizzoa13]

So this is a new problem for me and I think I know why I'm just finding it. View attachment 3My issue is that I'm not able to make a right side bevel cut of 45* to make a left handed cope on nested crown moulding with the kapex.

I usually do all my copes right handed but this specific cabinet layout would take a left hand cope much better but the saw slide is in the way and there isn't enough height to make the cut with the crown nested. On a left hand bevel there is about 4" of clearance between the slide bars and the deck, right hand bevel only has 2 1/2".

Is this a normal problem or am I just setting something up incorrectly? Pics attached.

 

[tjbnwi]

If you're cutting the crown nested wouldn't you miter the saw not bevel it?

I believe the guide rods on my Kapex are at the same elevation from the table when the saw is 90° to the table. I Know I can fit a 4x4 under both guide rods at the same time.

Tom

 

[rizzoa13]

I've been sitting it nested as it goes on top of the cabinet and have needed to make a 45* bevel to get it to turn. I'll have to look more into it

 

[rizzoa13]

Hahahah this is kind of crazy but I just looked up how other people do this and they flip the crown upside down and miter it. I've always cut it right side up and beveled it. I never ran into this problem because I right hand cope. Crazy right?

 

[peter halle]

Upside down and backwards when nested is normal for cutting crown.

Glad to see that you seem to have worked it out.

Cutting capacities are different on the sides of most miter saws based on the saw body.

I am moving this out of the Tool Problems area.

Peter

 

[rizzoa13]

Cool thanks. I guess that's what you just wing it. Can't believe I've been doing that for so long.

 

[peter halle]

As a suggestion to help productivity you might want to build a simple jig for cutting crown in the nested position.  It will take a little time because of the size of the turntable scale and wanting to be able to see the scale.  The moveable fences each have two screws to allow attaching something like this.  You could or course invest in the crown stops but don't bother.  When cutting smaller pieces they are (weird to hear me say this) worthless.

Good luck, and if you need any help or advice you know where we are.

Peter

 

[tjbnwi]

As a suggestion to help productivity you might want to build a simple jig for cutting crown in the nested position.  It will take a little time because of the size of the turntable scale and wanting to be able to see the scale.  The moveable fences each have two screws to allow attaching something like this.  You could or course invest in the crown stops but don't bother.  When cutting smaller pieces they are (weird to hear me say this) worthless.

Good luck, and if you need any help or advice you know where we are.

Peter

Looks like he has the crown stops on his saw.

Yep, upside down, table is ceiling, fence is wall. Swing saw to match needed miter angle.

Tom

 

[rizzoa13]

I've got the crown stops peter and I agree they are pretty poorly done with how small they are. I just bought the ug stand and added the multiblades adapters so I plan to make a solid one piece crown fence out of aluminum with the two handles so I can cut small pieces. I've always seen it done by people with a piece of plywood I just worry it'll warp in my hot as all trailer so I'll grab a piece of aluminum stock. Thanks for the offer of help.

 

[peter halle]

In steamy Virginia and towing a trailer far longer than I have had the Kapex (2010) warpage has never been an issue for me but I understand your desire to do it right once.  I personally refuse to spend much time or money on ancillary things.

Let us know how it goes.

Peter

 

[ear3]

Plywood or 1x pine clamped on either side is what I've used as a crown stop when I have the UG wings attached.

 

[Brandon]

I'd suggest you start cutting crown on the flat. In my opinion it's the far superior method. If you need help just google some charts for the angles required for setup. I have 20+ years of of molding work in me and haven't cut crown any other way in at least 18 years.

 

[roblg3]

I second Brandon. There's less user error when cutting flat. How many times has excess primer on the backside of the crown cocked the piece just enough crooked to throw everything out?

 

[JimD]

I cut crown upside down and backwards.  I do not cut it flat partially because I find it hard to figure out how to fine tune things when the fit isn't quite right.  I'm a homeowner and haven't done a whole house yet with crown but I've done a few rooms in 3 houses now.  The best tutorial I've seen on crown is by Ron Paulk.  It moves slowly (I think there are 6 parts) but it is very good.  Ron recommnds 3 little jigs which I built for my last crown job and they did help.