Who bought the SURFIX KIT?

Zacharytanner

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Hi guys,
Anybody buy the Surfix kit and use it yet? Any Feedback is great.  I am tempted....

Thanks,
Frank
 
Ordered one but don't have it yet. I had a chance to play with one at Festool training in Indy two months ago. Looked like a great resource for the right project (mostly flat or otherwise accessible surfaces). My only reservation at this point is how long the oil in the applicator-sized containers will last.
 
Maybe one of our friends in Europe has the Surfix and can address the question of how long the oil will keep after being opened. Unfortunately, I don't have any documentation with the answer to that question but I'll see if I can find out.
 
I have been testing the Surfix for several months. The mini containers, or bulbs, are air tight containers when the screw on cap is secure.  To use for oil application, you put on the green dispenser cap, but when done using, you put the original screw cap back on and the container is airtight. The oil has a in bulb shelf life similar to other linseed oil type products. It doesnt harden or evaporate in the sealed bulb. Also, the bulbs are small enough that you are likely to be using them up fairly quickly and the most practical method appears to be to use the 5 liter refill station with the screw on (to bulb) pump to keep refilling the smaller bulbs, and control the storage situation that way. Its an oil that shakes up well even after months of idle shelf time.

I am assuming that this is what the question was in reference to, shelf life in the bulb.

However, I have also seen others ask about how long the dispenser sponge lasts in the tin container after use. My recommendation on that is to use each applicator sponge for the series of steps for a project, storing inside the tin for the 6 hour in between coat wait period, then discard at the end of the project. The cost of replacement dispensor sponge applicators seems consistent with the approach of starting each project fresh with a new applicator, and they do get a little worn out after a couple of rounds. I don't consider the tin to be a long term wet oil storage solution, but its a handy overnighter to keep your applicator wet in between coats. All of this is cleaner and generally a better user experience than traditional oil rubbed wet rag handling.

Not sure what Festool's stance on that is, but that has been my observation.
 
The green cap is the dispenser cap that squirts the oil out when you squeeze the bulb during application. It cleans easily for many re-uses.

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The white cap is for storage. The bulb has clear visual display so that you can monitor oil in the bulb without having to look down through the top. You can store a half full bulb like this with the white cap secure, no problem.

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My thoughts on the surfix

1. On anything other than a flat worktop you will still need to use a brush or rag to do corners or edges.
2. To load the sponge uses a lot of oil so only practical for large areas.
3. The storage tin isn't air tight so you can only store the sponges for short periods.
4. The silicone seal on the green cap doesn't last very long although it does have a part number and can be ordered as a spare.
5. Some people have reported that the oil can remain tacky for days - not a problem that I've had with osmo polyx which has a proven track record.

I ended up selling my surfix and I've reverted to using a 4" foam or microfibre roller which I store in a ziploc bag and it will still be usable at least 48hrs later. It is quicker and cheaper to use than the surfix and there is less wastage and the results are the same.
 
I have a kit on order. I ordered the kit to test all 3 oil types. If you don't want the systainer, then its a better deal to buy the stuff seperatly.
 
My thoughts on the Surfix KIT .............................................................................................

Yip nothing lol! 

I bought it when it was first released in UK  (a while ago)  Not touched it yet lol  Not had a job come up where I have needed it lol!

[sad]  I hope it doesn't go out of date

JMB
 
Shane Holland said:
Maybe one of our friends in Europe has the Surfix and can address the question of how long the oil will keep after being opened. Unfortunately, I don't have any documentation with the answer to that question but I'll see if I can find out.

Ok, so here's the official answer.

The Surfix oil will keep for approximately 5 years, just like the bottle has never been opened. It is recommended to remove the green dispenser tip and put the white cap back on the bottle. Wash the dispenser tip. But even if the dispenser tip is left on the bottle, the oil will last for years. The oil will form kind of a skin over the opening. This skin has to be removed before the next use.
 
Thanks, Shane!  That is good info.

Scott B -- do you have any vids/pics of the finishing process and before/after shots?  How do you tackle things that are smaller than where the applicator pad will fit?

Scot
 
I do. I am in the process of sorting through all of that lately, and may have some visual compiled to share soon. We have been dabbling in a method for detail work with the Surfix that is on the same pile. I am pretty sure that the FOG will be among the very first to see what we've been up to with the system.
 
I used it on a couple of things, mainly the garage workbench after I gave it a good sanding and followed the simple instructions regarding the grit, sander and green vlies pads, then followed by the white pad for addtional coats. I'm glad it actually came with what I needed to do the entire job. Abrasives, pads, oils and simple yet good instructions. The "bulbs" I found at first a awkward shape but after about 5 mins it seemed ok and didn't give it another thought. I did make the mistake of shaking the bulb and didnt have the cap on tight so wasted a portion, my bad! I found you really have to load the pad a fair bit the first few strokes to get it spreading evenly and easily. Oils is a milky white liquid and remained tacky for some time. Not sure if it's because I started the projects later in the day/evening and it's now winter here so probably be faster drying when the weather gets warmer. Easy to apply to flat surfaces, but as mentioned above, you will still need a brush for detailed areas. Once I finished the workbench (in the heavy duty oil) I switched to the one step-oil and tossed away the yellow pad for the next job. Seems a waste but I didn't want them to mix the oils on the pad. Next project was an old chest of drawers, came up great and I found keeping the oil evenly spread easier than with a brush or rag and no pronounced change. Again a little tacky but with winter here and left in the garage overnight I assume its to be expected.
My overall impression? I enjoyed using it and will continue to do so. I find it cleaner and easier to get a more professional final result than I would have by rags etc. I'm happy with that. Not sure if the oils from any other manufacturer are better or worse so will be looking around for a larger container as the bulbs, whilst sweet to use only hold so much and I'm not sure if getting 5litres for replacement is too much for the jobs I do around home. For a production team it may be better. I did notice pronounced dimples on the used pad when I had it stored in the tin container, but it did not seem to affect the application at all. I put the bulb and pad in a plastic bag then inside the tin to try ensure the pad didn't harden, seems to work better but I'd prefer another solution as I don't wish to have to throw away the pads too often.
 
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