Why do I bother?
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What did they do, Jon?
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Apparently those unlevels would have worked just fine for that one...
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If I'm seeing that bar correctly, it seems the granite guy thought he was Frank Lloyd Wrong.
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Joe Smith said:
Yeah, you wouldn't get me to fix their screw ups.
I'm sure the clients are ready to get their kitchen finished (don't remember if you said it was new construction or a reno.)
What happens if you put a marble or even a pencil or pen down on that granite? Will your client accept that and do they realize? Will they feel differently in a few weeks?
All they need to do is cut down that strip a bit more. That edge wouldn't even be visible so they don't have to spend time carefully finishing it.
What happens if you put a marble or even a pencil or pen down on that granite? Will your client accept that and do they realize? Will they feel differently in a few weeks?
All they need to do is cut down that strip a bit more. That edge wouldn't even be visible so they don't have to spend time carefully finishing it.
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My granite guys regularly set all their tops, measure for splash, run back to the shop at the end of the day, cut, polish and install first thing the next morning. Perfect fit every time. There is no way I would accept that on one of my remodels. I would demand it changed before my customers had a chance to complain. That is not acceptable.
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That's the cabinetman to deal with.The cabman has to fix everything that everybody else screw up. [laughing] [laughing] [laughing]
mastercabman said:
Too true! The ball always gets picked up by the cabinet guy.
As to the having the granite guys fix it...the kitchen designer (who provides me with about 85% of my work) doesn't want to rip out the granite, so "Jon, can't you just..." I'm getting paid to do it, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
I'm not sure why he accepted it, but at the end of the day, its not my call.
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Rob Z
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Jon, stone fabricators are the bane of my remodeling existence.
My favorite story is from the jobsite of a contractor friend of mine....he called to say that the stone guys were there, installing the slabs, and there was a small problem.
I knew something was coming by the tone of his voice.
One run of cabinets was a bit out of level. The GC said to the stone guys "Don't worry about this, they're a bit out of level, but they are flat....just lay the tops right down on the cabinets as-is, and don't worry about shimming anything." Later---he hears a "crack!". The stone installers started levelling up the slab by running drywall screws in from below the slab and tried to lift it into place.
My favorite story is from the jobsite of a contractor friend of mine....he called to say that the stone guys were there, installing the slabs, and there was a small problem.
I knew something was coming by the tone of his voice.
One run of cabinets was a bit out of level. The GC said to the stone guys "Don't worry about this, they're a bit out of level, but they are flat....just lay the tops right down on the cabinets as-is, and don't worry about shimming anything." Later---he hears a "crack!". The stone installers started levelling up the slab by running drywall screws in from below the slab and tried to lift it into place.
I hear ya. These same stone guys tried poking me in the eye ok another job. Had to drop everything and rush over to another job where they were installing some some tops because my cabinets were out of level...but when I showed up and put my level on the slab, there was an 1/8 bow in the top! Out of level my arse.
Stone guys really are the bane of my existence as well.
Stone guys really are the bane of my existence as well.
I installed the cabinets in my kitchen and subbed out the granite work Before they even started templating they checked my work with an 8' level! Of course everything was dead on because I spent a lot of time getting it right. Seems to me that the kitchen designer needs to find another granite installer and you need to try to diversify (slowly and quietly) your work source so you're not dependent on someone who accepts rotten work -- and get paid for cleaning up the other guys mistakes
good luck!
Jay
good luck!
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Jon, Jay......my 8' Stabila and 10' aluminum straightedge have settled a lot of disputes with the granite "professionals". I'm always amused when they check with something like a 2' level, or at most a 4' level, and the minor variation in the tops of the boxes will of course show with a short level.
Jay, good comment about spreading out and finding other sources of work. It can be quite frustrating dealing with some folks that are the source of what is supposed to be good work.
Jon, one of my best friends moved to Charleston about 5 years ago and opened his shop there. He loves it down there and has no plans to come back here.
Jay, good comment about spreading out and finding other sources of work. It can be quite frustrating dealing with some folks that are the source of what is supposed to be good work.
Jon, one of my best friends moved to Charleston about 5 years ago and opened his shop there. He loves it down there and has no plans to come back here.
