Woodpecker Marking & Layout Tools " Help Please "

[Peter Fish]

Thanks guys for the comments. Seth in another entry you spoke of a Gold 6 inch precision square, I just found the two piece set with one gold 6" & red 4" any thoughts as to age of this set ?

 

[PeterK]

I think the dual color set is from about 7 years ago as I had them. Never found any use for them and sold them. I love the other squares and large triangles. Favorites are the 6" carpenters triangle and the 18" carpenters triangle that they make on occasion.

 

[RONWEN]

The Woodpecker "gold" color (colour for Peter  [wink]) could be more collectible but I think most agree the red they settled on tends to be a bit easier to read the increments.

 

[Peter Fish]

PeterK  thanks for your idea of age  the set I bought are new old stock and not what I was expecting so may well offer them for sale unless anybody says not to !

Hey Ron I blame you, it's all your fault, that the wish list is growing !

 

[Peter Fish]

Thanks to you all for your input, its now make up my mind time !!
So my questions to you all are ....
What are you using all the time and couldn't be without ?
What did you buy that you are you not using very often ?
Do you think I need to have both the 600 t square and the 600 framing square now being produced ?
My wish list includes the woodworkers rules, small carpenters squares and 1281 framing square + other small pieces
Sorry to be a bore  I need Help !!
Thanks in advance
Peter

 

[semenza]

Thanks to you all for your input, its now make up my mind time !!
So my questions to you all are ....
What are you using all the time and couldn't be without ?
What did you buy that you are you not using very often ?
Do you think I need to have both the 600 t square and the 600 framing square now being produced ?
My wish list includes the woodworkers rules, small carpenters squares and 1281 framing square + other small pieces
Sorry to be a bore  I need Help !!
Thanks in advance
Peter

Not sure everything you are interested in is currently available in metric?  

I would get the 32" T -Square  over the 24" ( 600 ).   The T-Square and Framing square do different functions so if you can get both , get both.

What I use the most......

       3" and 6" T-Squares (current One Time offer, in metric too)
     12" T-Square
      32" T-Square
     26" Framing Square (currently unavailable)
     12", 24" 36"  Woodworking Rules (skip the 24" if dropping one)
     4" and 6" Precision Squares (triangles)

Seth

 

[ericbuggeln]

I have the six red and eighteen gold triangles and use them all the time, Eric

 

[Peter Fish]

Thank you Seth & Eric
I am getting there slowly but surely
I have managed to get some pieces in the UK but hope to be over your side of the pond in the very near future and am thinking about dimensions for the suitcase !!
Can anybody tell me the actual size of the framing and longer T squares and if you have the MDF surround what size is that ? Bet it is heavy to !
Any further input greatly received I just don't want to get it wrong or miss something !!!
Cheers
Peter

 

[Peter Fish]

Thanks Ron with my eyes I need all the help I can get !  Red it !!
Peter

 

[Papajoe]

thanks seth, your post are to the point and answer with your exact opinion. you are a valued contributor.
in starting my wood work shop, i wondered if you recommend being everything metric [/b]in support of the festool system; re the layout tools you posted as your favorites? sawstop fence? incra wonder (dove tails and joints). I'm a bit old school, and know the imperial system well, but being commited to 20 plus festool products in mm? its ironic, that the cabinet we are all trying to build are 30" models is 762mm, not 750, 800, 700? also are all router bits equally available in inch and metric?
thanks
papajoe

 

[semenza]

thanks seth, your post are to the point and answer with your exact opinion. you are a valued contributor.
in starting my wood work shop, i wondered if you recommend being everything metric [/b]in support of the festool system; re the layout tools you posted as your favorites? sawstop fence? incra wonder (dove tails and joints). I'm a bit old school, and know the imperial system well, but being commited to 20 plus festool products in mm? its ironic, that the cabinet we are all trying to build are 30" models is 762mm, not 750, 800, 700? also are all router bits equally available in inch and metric?
thanks
papajoe

I mostly work in in imperial. I use metric when it is more convenient or simply easier for a particular  thing. EX. - I tend to use metric for  concealed hinge layout. In general I haven't had any real problem using Festool with imperial. It is nice to have a couple metric measuring tools available just in case.

Seth

 

[dltflt]

hey Peter, I don't have any experience with these but if you find a place to buy some of the one time tools will you send me a pm with a link,  [thanks]

Sometimes they have the one time tools leftover from the production run. You should call or email on the specific tool of interest. I just the 6 & 8" saddle squares a couple of months ago.

 

[NYC Tiny Shop]

Fishy,
You have been getting really great recommendations from these responders. I have Woodpecker's 1281, the 600mm T Square, the metric/ imperial Poalini ruler, and the Veritas saddle square, also.  I've been making my own story sticks, but will soon be aquiring a couple Woodpecker Story Sticks, in metric.  Woodpecker tools, like Festools, are quality instruments that are enjoyable to use.  They are expensive, again...like Festool, but compared to most other less expensive brands, they are well worth it.

 

[rljatl]

Thanks to you all for your input, its now make up my mind time !!
So my questions to you all are ....
What are you using all the time and couldn't be without ?
What did you buy that you are you not using very often ?
Do you think I need to have both the 600 t square and the 600 framing square now being produced ?
My wish list includes the woodworkers rules, small carpenters squares and 1281 framing square + other small pieces
Sorry to be a bore  I need Help !!
Thanks in advance
Peter

Not sure everything you are interested in is currently available in metric?  

I would get the 32" T -Square  over the 24" ( 600 ).   The T-Square and Framing square do different functions so if you can get both , get both.

What I use the most......

       3" and 6" T-Squares (current One Time offer, in metric too)
     12" T-Square
      32" T-Square
     26" Framing Square (currently unavailable)
     12", 24" 36"  Woodworking Rules (skip the 24" if dropping one)
     4" and 6" Precision Squares (triangles)

Seth

Seth,

I am also trying to figure out which Woodpecker tools to buy...

Seems like there is a lot of overlap among those measuring devices you mentioned.  How do you use the woodworking rules vs. the T-squares vs. the triangles?

Thanks!

 

[Howad]

The Veritas saddle square is one of my favourite marking tools, just to demonstrate that there are alternatives to Woodpeckers.

ditto on the Veritas

 

[semenza]

Thanks to you all for your input, its now make up my mind time !!
So my questions to you all are ....
What are you using all the time and couldn't be without ?
What did you buy that you are you not using very often ?
Do you think I need to have both the 600 t square and the 600 framing square now being produced ?
My wish list includes the woodworkers rules, small carpenters squares and 1281 framing square + other small pieces
Sorry to be a bore  I need Help !!
Thanks in advance
Peter

Not sure everything you are interested in is currently available in metric?  

I would get the 32" T -Square  over the 24" ( 600 ).   The T-Square and Framing square do different functions so if you can get both , get both.

What I use the most......

       3" and 6" T-Squares (current One Time offer, in metric too)
     12" T-Square
      32" T-Square
     26" Framing Square (currently unavailable)
     12", 24" 36"  Woodworking Rules (skip the 24" if dropping one)
     4" and 6" Precision Squares (triangles)

Seth

Seth,

I am also trying to figure out which Woodpecker tools to buy...

Seems like there is a lot of overlap among those measuring devices you mentioned.  How do you use the woodworking rules vs. the T-squares vs. the triangles?

Thanks!

Some of the overlap is simply to have the handiest size for the task.

    The large framing square for actually squaring things. Such as guide rails , sheet goods, and large boxes. The 12" and 32" T-Squares for marking sheet goods and wide boards.

    Neither of those do the others jobs all that well.  For instance , using the T-square to square a cabinet box really doesn't work.  Or at the end of a sheet of plywood it is only OK because using just one side of the 'T' isn't much of a reference. Marking with the 26" framing square certainly works, but the edge isn't beveled and you need to eyeball the mark when you make it. Sometimes the size (length of the leg) just makes it difficult. The T-squares have marking holes that make accuracy  very , very good and repeatable.

    The small triangles are for squaring small things when the large  one just won't fit (inside a box for example) they are also handy  for general purpose height measurements from a horizontal surface.

    The rules are just good for all purpose measuring and marking. The squares don't always fit or work well especially on assembles pieces. Plus the rules have a center scale on one edge. Really useful when laying out hardware locations etc.

    The small T-squares  are for marking (again with the holes) on small pieces.

    If dropping some things from the list...... drop the 12" and 3" T-squares since the longer ones of each version can do the jobs. Drop the 12" rule for the same reason.  Keep both small triangles because the 6" won't always fit inside  smaller boxes.

    I agree with what others have said that a saddle square is very handy to have as well.

  Hope that helps.

Seth