Woodpeckers latest OTT: MFT shelf support

You can order all parts (profiles cut to the dimensions you want plus the ready-to-use fasteners you need) for that (or likely a superior version) from Item for roughly 1/2 the asking price.

Without the one-time order-now-before-it's-too-late nonsense.

I call bullshit on the whole one-time-tool thing. In case something is a great tool then there's no valid reason to stop producing it / make only a limited quantity, unless you want to fleece people through artificial scarcity.
 
HarveyWildes said:
Michael Kellough said:
Since it isn’t April Fools Day yet they must have way too much of that T-track aluminum. IMO they should make a bunch of the MFS template thing and put it in the catalog, at a discount.

I second the thought.

Festool sells two supporting rods for $80 (before this year's price increases).  That's about $40 a piece, plus some hardware.  Woodpeckers has 5 pieces for $200, plus some hardware, -and- it's usable as super track.  They're just giving us the pricing we're used to from Festool.

Seems like they’re testing the gullibility of the Festool market.
 
This is just a more grotesque example of the fact that one-time tools are just bullshit.

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Look at it this way - from the Woodpecker catalog, the cost of the equivalent lengths of Super Track is $190 (2 pcs at $50 each + 3 pcs at $30 each (assuming that they cut the 23" pcs out of a 60" blank) - and the cost doesn't seem quite so bad.
 
tomp said:
Look at it this way - from the Woodpecker catalog, the cost of the equivalent lengths of Super Track is $190 (2 pcs at $50 each + 3 pcs at $30 each (assuming that they cut the 23" pcs out of a 60" blank) - and the cost doesn't seem quite so bad.
I look at the Item price list and the cost of the woodpecker one seems quite bad.
 
tomp said:
Look at it this way - from the Woodpecker catalog, the cost of the equivalent lengths of Super Track is $190 (2 pcs at $50 each + 3 pcs at $30 each (assuming that they cut the 23" pcs out of a 60" blank) - and the cost doesn't seem quite so bad.

So how much would it cost to buy 2 - 2x4s and 1/2 sheet of 3/4" plywood?  It's a danged shelf, for cryin' out loud!  [2cents] [censored]
 
Sparktrician said:
So how much would it cost to buy 2 - 2x4s and 1/2 sheet of 3/4" plywood?  It's a danged shelf, for cryin' out loud!  [2cents] [censored]

It looks like somewhere in the $199.99 to $219.99 range... [poke]
 
This is a "How to transform a ~850$ portable workbench into a semi-permanent one for only 199$" :P
 
Slartibartfass said:
Maybe WP is running out of ideas....?

You probably meant to say, "running out of GOOD ideas."

It seems that Woodpeckers has lost their way. I used to have a good deal of respect for the company and their line of products. But, offerings like this, along with the endless "one time tool" come ons has changed much of that.  [sad]
 
I see their OTT's a little differently. They should make the ones that are hits permanent. And the one that are more, let's call them superfluous, are cool things for enthusiast. They don't make you buy them. Not that this one is an example of it, but as a hobbyist I find joy in using a tool that is just designed very well for a specific job.

My favorite knife is a tomato knife, you don't need it too often, but its a joy to use when you do.
 
Supertrack is a nifty extrusion.  It has a lot of uses and fits in a little better with the average hobbyist shop compared to 80/20, which is kind of a system of its own.

They did the VRJ off Supertrack which I think was a good use of the profile (assuming it works well - haven't gotten mine).  But they probably had a ton of ST inventory and tried to introduce a framing product with it, especially since they developed an end-to-side connection method for it.  And hey, let's be honest, there's no shortage of folks using 80/20 for cabinets/racks and other framing where lumber would suffice.  I don't see the harm of WP trying to get in on that action, but the specific product they came up with to do so just seems absurd. 
 
rst said:
I made the upper and lower ends from some thick black ABS.  They are milled to fit into the 1" tubes.  The lower ones were made in one long piece, then I drilled a hole the diameter of the cross brace and split with my bandsaw to fit over the cross brace.  The upper ones were a little trickier.  I had to tinker with getting the proper angle, and milled a finger to engage the slot in the MFT profile.  The braces are not attached but rather, tension fit.  Between the cross brace and shelve supports my MFT is rock solid.
First off....awesome. Genius. Secondly, how did you attach the flanged pieces to the square tubes to sit over the cross pieces? Thanks!
 
I made the lengths the outside dimensions of the cross braces and just used a zip tie to hold in place.  If I were to do it again I would make the shelf supports long enough to use the tri-corner connectors and let the third leg of the connector fit down over the outside of the braces.  Or you could use horizontal double flange on the ends so the outside flange sat on the cross brace.  Initially I had the systs just sitting on the interior flanges but later cut .187 ABS to make an actual shelf so I could store more than just systs.  I have two MFTs and both are outfitted like this.  I don't really take mine out of the shop but it would be easy.  The shelf supports just rest on the braces and by removing the center bolt where the cross braces intersect they can be cocked sideways to remove.
 
Corwin said:
Slartibartfass said:
Maybe WP is running out of ideas....?

You probably meant to say, "running out of GOOD ideas."

It seems that Woodpeckers has lost their way. I used to have a good deal of respect for the company and their line of products. But, offerings like this, along with the endless "one time tool" come ons has changed much of that.  [sad]

Yes, ^this x 100.  I was just surprised that it wasn't offered in red anodize, for a premium charge. [crying]
 
rst said:
I made the lengths the outside dimensions of the cross braces and just used a zip tie to hold in place.  If I were to do it again I would make the shelf supports long enough to use the tri-corner connectors and let the third leg of the connector fit down over the outside of the braces.  Or you could use horizontal double flange on the ends so the outside flange sat on the cross brace.  Initially I had the systs just sitting on the interior flanges but later cut .187 ABS to make an actual shelf so I could store more than just systs.  I have two MFTs and both are outfitted like this.  I don't really take mine out of the shop but it would be easy.  The shelf supports just rest on the braces and by removing the center bolt where the cross braces intersect they can be cocked sideways to remove.
Thank you sir! Wonderful idea and my MFT stays in place in the shop. Really fantastic solution and my systainers sit on the floor underneath and I hate it.
 
I just added a plywood shelf with a couple of cleats to stop it from sliding off.

I did have the idea of building a cabinet/ sys port that sits on the cross bars of the MFT.

So I came up with this idea and though Im still in the process of building them and setting up the work stations, adding castors and slides etc. I found I can set 4 cabinets per a MFT, 2 per a side. Here a a couple of photos to give you a idea.

I have been able to clear off my spur shelves of where I store my sustainers, 3 shelves 8' long doubled sustainers . Opens up up almost the entire rear wall in my shop /garage

 

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