Woodpeckers “Morty” loose tenon jig

[rubber_ducky]

https://www.woodpeck.com/morty-loose-tenon-jig.html

The unit and a decent router (which most of us have already) isn’t way off from what a domino costs (if you could find one).

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[Bob D.]

The ability to make angled mortises would be useful for louvered doors or blinds as they show on their webpage.

 

[squall_line]

Ironic that this video was posted last week Friday?


Although he also admits that loose tenon jigs have been around for a long time.

I have no association with either the WP product nor the 10 Min Workshop jig.

 

[DynaGlide]

That's pretty cool. If I were doing angled mortises on the regular that's something I would see a lot of value in.

 

[Mike Goetzke]

I was very impressed until I saw the 3-1/2" width limit.

 

[Packard]

I use a beadlock loose tenon jig.  I actually have a mortising machine and a tenon jig for my table saw.  But anytime the piece gets longer than about 36" it hits the ceiling when I try to cut the tenons on the stock. 

The beadlock unit is faster and easier and appears to have all the strength I need.  I got mine from Rockler and I buy the beadlock stock from them also. They do sell a router bit so that you can make your own, but I don't use that much of the stuff.

The beadlock starter kit from Rockler is $29.95 vs $599.00 (on sale) from Woodpeckers. 

I don't know how well the Woodpeckers unit works, but I have made a couple of screen doors using the beadlock unit and those went quickly and have stood up for years.  They do make a beadlock professional unit which will do all that the Woodpeckers does for $169.00.  I don't have that unit so I cannot comment on how well it works.

 

[squall_line]

Now that I've looked a little more closely at the "Morty", it appears that their target market is not necessarily would-be Domino owners, but anyone who wants to do exposed/through-tenon joinery.  This tracks with their beech and white oak tenon offerings that they have.

I gotta hand it to them, even though they could release the tenon stock tomorrow, they're holding out until the "Morty" is available.  Like most of their One Time Tool offerings, you gotta be willing to wait; expected End of December, 2021.

 

[chrisrosenb]

That's pretty cool. If I were doing angled mortises on the regular that's something I would see a lot of value in.

The angled mortises were what drew me to look closer at it. Although at my age, I do not believe it would be of much value to me.

 

[Tony from Pandora]

I really like the center alignment ability for this.  The domino isn't awesome when you want the mortise perfectly centered on narrow stock.

One issue I see is that i don't know how it would work for the middle of a flat panel (e.g. shelves in a cabinet).  There's no meat to clamp it down (if you even had clamps long enough to reach) and still use the router, from the looks of it.

I suppose after some more comments and views, they'll issue a 'Deep Dive' video about it...!

 

[Cheese]

I guess I'm more interested in what other types of tenon stock they'll be releasing.

$599 just gets you 8 mm capabilities, you'll need the $220 package of router bits to get all the sizes advertised.

 

[rmhinden]

I guess I'm more interested in what other types of tenon stock they'll be releasing.

That was my conclusion as well, interesting for thru tenons.

BTW, when i watched the video, there was a short segment showing them hand scribing the tenon stock to create glue lines.  This would be quite a pain for a large project.

Bob

 

[Cheese]

BTW, when i watched the video, there was a short segment showing them hand scribing the tenon stock to create glue lines.  This would be quite a pain for a large project.

Ya Bob, I saw that additional step as well.  [sad]

 

[Sparktrician]

One thing I noticed about the tenon stock is that the rounded contours are not grooved to provide pressure release for the glue in the mortise, unlike Festool stock. 

Seems that [member=44099]Cheese[/member] and I had a similar thought...  (Great minds running in parallel...) 

 

[ChuckM]

Not for me as it can't do shelving/partitioning as the domino joiner. That shelving capability is a must for me as I no longer want to do dadoes.

Angled mortises with the DF500?

(Mine is the paddle version; the pin version will do louvers much simpler.)

 

[chrisrosenb]

I guess I'm more interested in what other types of tenon stock they'll be releasing.

That was my conclusion as well, interesting for thru tenons.

BTW, when i watched the video, there was a short segment showing them hand scribing the tenon stock to create glue lines.  This would be quite a pain for a large project.

Bob

They also show using the tenon stock for through tenons. You do not want grooves for that.

 

[Packard]

Not for me as it can't do shelving/partitioning as the domino joiner. That shelving capability is a must for me as I no longer want to do dadoes.

Angled mortises with the DF500?

(Mine is the paddle version; the pin version will do louvers much simpler.)

I also have abandoned dadoes.  I have a CMT dedicated sheet goods dowel jig for sheets upto 30" wide.  It works fine for shelving and allows me to quickly drill on 32 mm centers if I want that number of dowels.  I am using 8mm dowels, but I could change that out to use 3/8".  I use their centering bit for drilling, but I could also use my plunge router to do the same.

 

[squall_line]

Angled mortises with the DF500?

(Mine is the paddle version; the pin version will do louvers much simpler.)

I'm assuming you just register the pins on either side of the stile and use that angle as your angle throughout, moving the piece a set distance for each new louver?

 

[Cheese]

They also show using the tenon stock for through tenons. You do not want grooves for that.

You're right...otherwise they'll turn out like this. Small grooves on the flats & small grooves on the radiuses.  [sad]

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However, they also suggest using their new tenon stock on through-mortises when using the Morty...I wonder how that will look as the Morty machines metric mortises using imperial router bits. There will be an elongated radius on the Morty mortise that will range from .018" on the 6 mm mortise to .097" on the 12 mm mortise.

 

[Packard]

I don't see it.  Undoubtedly nicely made. 

But I have a full-fledged mortising machine and a Delta tenon jig for my table saw, and combined they cost less than the Woodpeckers offering. 

I've used it more for decorative than functional purposes.  I made some saddle joints and cross-pinned them with 3/8" square dowels.  The mortising machine made quick  work of this and it adds a craftsman touch.  Since I was  using square dowels, this was about as hard as using a drill press. 

I would rather buy the tenon jig and mortise machine again than spend on that jig.  I would rather buy the beadlock jig at $39.00 than that jig. 

Nothing I've read here would persuade me make that purchase.

 

[ChuckM]

I'm assuming you just register the pins on either side of the stile and use that angle as your angle throughout, moving the piece a set distance for each new louver?

That's the principle with the pins. In execution, some used an index pin others a domino for registration such as this guy:


Because mine is the paddle version, I had to use a cradle jig.