120V Sys Power Box

Cheese said:
Do you know the dimensions of the receptacle bolt pattern?

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] The bolt mounting holes are 38mm center to center both horizontal and vertical. The outside edge of the socket is 50mm square.
 
Peter Halle said:
[member=8022]Greg Powers[/member] , if you have an image pre-mod then I think that is ok to be posted here.  No different than taking a cover off of a tool to show the internals.

Peter

Yes the photos are pre-modification.
 

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TinyShop said:
Thanks Greg! Wow, there's a lot more going on in there than I expected....

[member=64030]TinyShop[/member] It might look that way but with the power bus at the bottom Festool really reduce the wiring. I bet it makes assembly very easy and quick. Everything is just plug it in. No wire nuts or screw on connection.
 
Indeed, I just hadn't put much thought into what might be there. The use of a bus is obvious now that I see it. I'll keep this in mind for my own project....
 
The power-hub is also available on Amazon.de. Considerably cheaper there at 132.02 Euros. And that’s with the VAT still added in. I’m guessing that it would still end up cheaper even after adding in shipping. Been thinking about this as well.

Clint
 
Those push sockets are garbage. You're soo much better off with the replacements that have screws.

Transformer that you can switch between 5v and 10v boost for safety on Kapex? 

I wonder even if power factor correction would make tools run better...

But, everything is $ to add. If anyone wants to just "go all out" with any of that stuff, I can probably help.
 
JeremyH. said:
I wonder even if power factor correction would make tools run better...

Power factor correction is for the benefit of the power supply company and has no effect on the load that you connect to that power.

PFC is there to minimise the transmission losses of supplying you that power.
 
Svar said:
I'm curious what is the purpose of it? It's equivalent to a simple power strip, but 20 times bigger. Not to mention the cost. Why?

If it is done in a way that preserves a lot of the interior Systainer space, then additional extensions cords, adapters, battery charger and power related items could also be transported and stored in one unit that fits the stacking system. Maybe even a couple small lights.  If building a custom one the size could be whatever is needed to accommodate other things.

Not sure I would make good use of a power Sys but I do have a lighting kit in a Systainer. And maybe that could use a revamp to make it more multipurpose. One of the things I try to avoid is having a bunch of things like cord reels and odd ball shaped cases or things that are not in cases that make transport a hassle.

Seth
 
Greg,

Is there a receptacle / outlet on the inside? Or does that serve a special purpose?

Seth
 
FWIW...just got a note back from International Configuration and they have the 70020-BLK receptacles in stock at $6.46 each.  [smile]

However, they do have a $50 minimum charge.  [sad]
 
Bohdan said:
JeremyH. said:
I wonder even if power factor correction would make tools run better...

Power factor correction is for the benefit of the power supply company and has no effect on the load that you connect to that power.

PFC is there to minimise the transmission losses of supplying you that power.

While I'm not sure about saws, this is a woefully incorrect statement. Were you right then large office buildings wouldn't be requiring PFC built SMPSs to get around the problems developing where they're overusing electricity that has been making nutty harmonics & losing stability. And it has a substantial affect on all things audio.
 
It does stack with existing stuff, which makes for a clean way to do things.

And I don't know how long you've been on the forum, looking or posting, but I think it's obvious anything Systainer goes around here. It doesn't have to make a ton of sense, be economical, or practical to be created.

BTW I think paying the price for stacking systems that leave a space looking clean is worth a pretty big dollar figure to many of us.
 
Cheese said:
FWIW...just got a note back from International Configuration and they have the 70020-BLK receptacles in stock at $6.46 each.  [smile]

However, they do have a $50 minimum charge.  [sad]

Simple, build two units and sell one  [wink]
 
JeremyH. said:
It does stack with existing stuff, which makes for a clean way to do things.

And I don't know how long you've been on the forum, looking or posting, but I think it's obvious anything Systainer goes around here. It doesn't have to make a ton of sense, be economical, or practical to be created.

BTW I think paying the price for stacking systems that leave a space looking clean is worth a pretty big dollar figure to many of us.

Plus one here.

Like I said all along it is a expensive plug strip. And you can not economically/business wise justify the cost. But I have wanted from  the first day Festool released the Power Hub.
 
SRSemenza said:
Svar said:
I'm curious what is the purpose of it? It's equivalent to a simple power strip, but 20 times bigger. Not to mention the cost. Why?

If it is done in a way that preserves a lot of the interior Systainer space, then additional extensions cords, adapters, battery charger and power related items could also be transported and stored in one unit that fits the stacking system. Maybe even a couple small lights.  If building a custom one the size could be whatever is needed to accommodate other things.

Not sure I would make good use of a power Sys but I do have a lighting kit in a Systainer. And maybe that could use a revamp to make it more multipurpose. One of the things I try to avoid is having a bunch of things like cord reels and odd ball shaped cases or things that are not in cases that make transport a hassle.

Seth

Seth makes a good point here.

I'd like to add the following:

The SYS-PH might seem "bulky" if compared to a power strip or simple cable reel - but if used with other Systainers, CTL-SYS, SYS-CART it makes for a very compact footprint and offers additional space.

For example (and without going into to much details, I try to keep it short): In Germany, if you do commercial work you are required to only use electric circuits that are deemed safe and in proper working condition.

This can be achieved in two ways:

1) The construction/ work site offers a power supply/distribution set up and tested by an electrician.
2) You use whatever power supply/distribution is available but you put your personal PRCD-S between supply and your tools/distribution. What it does especially, is that it won't stay on if there is anything wrong with the circuit you want to use. If the circuit checks out OK, it will provide additional safety like any RCCB/RCD.

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So if you don't have a distribution with built in PRCD (which is then mostly as big/bulky as a systainer, maybe even more - and which abides by all rules/regulations) you will most definitely have at least one additional power strip with PRCD built in.

Since I take safety pretty seriously even though I don't do any commercial work, I have one of these and it fits perfectly into the SYS-PH together with the other power strip.

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The SYS-PH is the first Systainer to go on my SYS-Cart - on top of it is my CTL-SYS.

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This gives me options:

Plug CTL-SYS in SYS-PH and tool in CTL-SYS's socket

Plug CTL-SYS and tool in SYS-PH (Like pictured above, because I switched on and off manually)

Plug CTL-SYS and tool(s) in SYS-PH and one tool in CTL-SYS's socket.

In anyway, in essence you have only one cord running to your stack and everything packs up nicely and is easily moved - you can always just sling the cord around the stack an move within a minute from one place to the next.

I loved this when I had to put my stack on the patio's roof for example.

You might have no need for any of this, that's fine. But others might. ;)

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
SRSemenza said:
Greg;

Is there a receptacle / outlet on the inside? Or does that serve a special purpose?

Seth

[member=1619]SRSemenza[/member] The receptacle on the inside is the same as the ones on the front. Nothing special.
 
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